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Mon Aug-04-08 08:24 PM
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heh, even Dan Abrams has turned against Obama. |
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Here he gives a solid speech on energy, McCain isn't much in the news cycle, he gets smacked upside the head by Paris Hilton's mother and McCain clearly wins the day. Even the Democratic strategists suggest McCain won today.
Pathetic.
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Mon Aug-04-08 08:26 PM
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1. Obama needs to throw some mud McCain's way. |
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Mon Aug-04-08 08:27 PM
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4. Why? It won't do a damn thing. |
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Obama linked McCain to failed energy policies and had harsh words for him today, but that wasn't the focus. The focus was on McCain's rising poll numbers and Bill Clinton being a fucking asshole.
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Tue Aug-05-08 01:44 AM
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25. Speeches are boring... |
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attack ads are not. That's why.
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Mon Aug-04-08 08:26 PM
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2. How did McCain win the day? Was it the tire gauge crap? |
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I never thought of Abrams as being for Obama in the first place. He goes back and forth.
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Mon Aug-04-08 08:28 PM
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5. That, the poll #s and Bill I have diarrhea of the mouth Clinton. |
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Tue Aug-05-08 08:37 AM
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30. I don't know but I am very disappointed with Bill Clinton |
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he is behaving badly...:hangover:
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Mon Aug-04-08 08:26 PM
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3. I turned the channel because I knew where he was going. |
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Obama gives a good speech on energy, and all McCain has to do is fart to win the day. Enough is enough.
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Mon Aug-04-08 08:31 PM
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10. I must confess I didn't know where this was going. Even according to the "scoreboard" Obama won, |
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and yet ALL of them say MCCAIN won because of old polls? He has gained 3 points from 3 days ago. :shrug:
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Mon Aug-04-08 08:28 PM
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6. I have no idea why the Dem. strategists thought McCain won the day. Obama clearly won with his |
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speech, with specifics, put out that great new ad, had Paris's mom smack down McCain, and on and on. What is WITH these people?
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Mon Aug-04-08 08:28 PM
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7. Dan Abrams is a puppet he does what he is told! |
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Mon Aug-04-08 08:30 PM
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8. McCain won the day because by and large Americans are stupid. |
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Sorry to say it. They like folks who kick ass. They like tits and ass. They like torture. Not every American is a 'they" but the "theys" vote early and vote often. That is all that counts.
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Mon Aug-04-08 09:20 PM
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18. McCain is running a comic book campaign. If the American public |
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buys it, then we have a comic book mentality in America.
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Tue Aug-05-08 08:15 AM
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27. I will add to this by saying if a majority of America will choose McCain |
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based on these types of attacks.
THEY GET EVERYTHING THEY DESERVE!!
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Tue Aug-05-08 09:10 AM
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36. Unfortunately, "WE" get everything they deserve. |
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Tue Aug-05-08 12:58 AM
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22. Amen, brother (or sister) |
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Mon Aug-04-08 08:30 PM
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9. I hardly ever agree with that segment - he's only good for the legal stuff imo. |
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Mon Aug-04-08 09:11 PM
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17. I don't know. I find him good for his "bottle-mouth" faces |
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That look is what seals the deal.
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Tue Aug-05-08 08:13 AM
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26. LOL - I gave up on Dan when he covered the Debra LaFave... |
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...situation OVER and OVER AGAIN ~ and kept drooling all over his clothes!
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Mon Aug-04-08 08:49 PM
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11. Well, since Dan Abrams show is such a significant force in our country's psyche |
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Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 08:52 PM by BeatleBoot
It might mean something to somebody.
But I highly doubt it.
My guess is that it all means a whole lot of nothing to most.
At one time, Raymond Burr's political leanings may have had more influence on the topic of the day.
But that's coming from an old "Ironsides" junky
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Mon Aug-04-08 08:52 PM
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One time he gives McCain a win and some of you are upset. Most of the time Obama gets the win.
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Mon Aug-04-08 08:54 PM
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13. Every day last week was a McCain win. |
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Tue Aug-05-08 08:49 AM
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Because I agree. Obama got his ass kicked last week, and his campaign's only response was a bunch of whiny memos talking about how uncivil John McCain was.
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Mon Aug-04-08 08:56 PM
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14. He was always a PUMA. He must have heard that Clinton may not get the Veep nod? |
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His show doesn't make sense ever.
I have to turn it off most of the time, because the comments from him are often assinine.
When he showed the Rasmussen poll including leaners, which turned the regular polling Tie poll numbers into a tie with McCain leading by one poing (47-46), I knew better than even before that he is just another corporate media mouthpiece.....although I wasn't surprised, using a daily poll and not mentioning that it was the leaner portion of it turned me totally off. The media are using polls to affect public opinion in a way that is desigenious to a degree of fraudulence.
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Mon Aug-04-08 09:02 PM
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15. These people who are painting Obama as "slipping" keep concluding that "maybe he DOES need |
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Hillary on his ticket afterall." :eyes:
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Mon Aug-04-08 09:05 PM
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16. I don't really give shit what they pronounce in the name |
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corporatewhoredom but they're just lyin' when they say "mccain won the day".
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Mon Aug-04-08 09:21 PM
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19. oh stop it, he gave McCain the day because of the polls |
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Abrams was fair to Obama today.
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Tue Aug-05-08 08:28 AM
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Abrams has been great the last couple of weeks. He beats up on McCain on a regular basis for all the right reasons.
One day, ONE FREAKING DAY, he happens to mention that the polls show a bounce for McCain (regardless of your bitch over the one point, ONE POINT, difference between leaners and registered voters in the Gallup poll, McCain has inched up a couple of points in the last week or so) and you write him off as a hack. You go so far as to send an insulting email to a smart guy who is on our side. Or was, until he was attacked unfairly.
Chill pill.
Really.
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Mon Aug-04-08 09:28 PM
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20. He was never with him |
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during the primary you couldn't tell the difference between Abrams and Scarborough some nights. He was that far up billary's ass.
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Tue Aug-05-08 01:10 AM
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23. Dan Abrams is excellent |
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He was the first to high profile spotlight the Siegelman/Rove issue. He was the first to hammer the media's preferred treatment of Obama in the primaries, even though he ignored the prime offenders on his own network.
I love balance in the political media. I don't know how you guys can stand the one-sided garbage from either side. I don't want to watch Rachel Maddow any more than FOX News. When I can predict the reaction and slant to any topic it's worthless. I certainly don't learn anything.
I guess I feel that way based on 20+ years in Las Vegas. Some guys bet nothing but underdogs. Others nothing but favorites. You think I'm going to approach them for an opinion? :rofl:
I can tell who they like from the pointspread.
Abrams and Gregory will give and take from both sides, and they're not scattergun schizo like Matthews.
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Tue Aug-05-08 08:18 AM
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I agree that Abrams has every bit the feel of an "honest broker" ...
There is a BIG difference between Abrams and Gregory ... Abrams seems to be detached from the beltway ... IMO, Gregory REEKS of being drunk on beltway insider status - and THESE are the cats that massage the message for Rs ...
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Tue Aug-05-08 08:45 AM
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31. Abrams was never for Obama. He's just another whore who will do anything for a paycheck. |
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Tue Aug-05-08 08:45 AM
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I don't trust any of the whores any more. Not a single one, Olbermann included.
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Tue Aug-05-08 08:48 AM
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33. Obama lost all of last week and only began to turn |
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it around this week.
He needs to attack McCain and burn the old bastard to the ground.
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Tue Aug-05-08 08:50 AM
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35. So if McCain does an ad that Obama is a space alien, he'll really win the day! |
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I get the "logic"...
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