I'm Glad Obama is not getting his VP advice from GD-P!

[SidneyCarton]

Lets review shall we:

Evan Bayh: Homophobe, Racist, Bland

Jim Webb: Fascist

John Edwards: Scandals (alleged)

Chuck Hagel: Satan Incarnate

Wesley Clark: Loose Cannon

Joe Biden: Loose Cannon, Bankruptcy Bill, Sitting Senator

Brian Schweitzer: Hasn't been greatly flamed yet, but I'm sure we'll think of something...

Tim Kaine: Anti-Choice, Homophobe

Hillary Clinton: :nuke: (Probably better we don't go there...)

Did I leave anyone out?

Anyhoo, if Senator Obama was looking for ideas here in GD-P, I think he'd quickly realize that even if he could resurrect JFK, we'd find something to be pissed off about (After all, he had a substance-abuse problem and liked the pretty girls a little too much, right?)

Obama has so far proven himself to be canny, as always a veepstakes pisses some people off, and unless Obama can pick 12 VP's he will not please all of us. Let us hope he can pick one that will help him win.

Edit : For those of you who were wondering :sarcasm:

[polichick]

1. What makes Wes Clark a "loose cannon?"

[navarth]

2. yeah I'd like to hear that too....I think he's the best bet

[DevonRex]

11. The OP isn't saying he's a loose cannon. He's saying that we here

on DU pretty much criticize every possible pick for something, whether or not it's even factual. And that Obama will just pick the one who helps us win, and won't be getting advice from those of us who criticize everybody.

[DevonRex]

7. That's not the OP's opinion. He's just saying what he's read here

about every possible VP pick and that it's pretty silly to tear them all to shreds.

I like Clark, too. :)

[cliffordu]

22. I WANT Clark to be a loose cannon. I want the McCain campaign to pee

a little every time Clarke opens his mouth to puncture another masturbatory fantasy about McCain's heroism since he's been back from 'the 'Nam' (tm).

I want Clark, THE REAL WAR HERO to skin McCain alive.

[SidneyCarton]

25. And I agree with you.

Clark is competent, calm and intelligent. He also is no one to screw with, making him a good choice.

[Heather MC]

33. Not to mention he is really cute. He and Obama look great together

[DevonRex]

39. Phew. Thank goodness I'm not the only...

shallow one here. :) He is really handsome, isn't he? And they do look great together. It's a study in contrasts on all levels: race, career, personality.

[Heather MC]

42. I don't think it's Shallow, we are the TV/ internet/ pretty people Generation

I remember when Bush picked Quayle they said he did it because he was young and attractive. And of course we all soon found out that was his only Qualities to be the VP.

Everyone use to talk about how Handsome Clinton was
and Of Course Kenndy was considered a Hottie.

Let's face it Wes Clark Ages Pretty, and he and Obama would look great on my bumper!

[DevonRex]

46. Oh I agree completely. It is a fact of the age we live in. Even

though we may wish looks did not matter, they do. And thankfully both Obama and Clark are smart as well as handsome. They're a striking pair.

I only mentioned the shallow thing because I was skewered a few months back for mentioning looks and I have been hesitant to say anything about it again. For me it is just a simple fact of life and it would be impractical to think looks don't matter at all.

[Heather MC]

48. Never let someone else's Opinion on this place stop you from pointing out

who's hot! and who's not!
:rofl:

[DevonRex]

49. We definitely know who's NOT, don't we? Did you see that

post yesterday about McCain looking like a ghoul? Very scary photos. Don't look at them right after you eat. hee hee

[DevonRex]

27. And he does it so well, too. He's smart and quick witted. He could

wipe the floor with McCain and whomever his running mate will be.

Heh heh.

[cliffordu]

29. And I hate to say this, but because Clark is white, he can hit them with more

disgust and that 'for the camera outrage' than Obama because he won't get painted as the "Angry black candidate."

[DevonRex]

35. No need to hate to say it. It's true and we all know it. He can be

the angry one. Barack can't. I think it's a perfect duo, myself.

Also, I agree with Heather above. Clark is handsome. :)

[cliffordu]

52. I do, too.

[AwakeAtLast]

51. What a great visual, LOL!

:rofl:

And, I'm inclined to agree with you! :hi:

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

8. "Loose cannon" = he dared to challenge the corporate media deification of McCain

That's a cardinal sin in the eyes of the apologists.

[polichick]

9. Made him a hero to me! :)

[NewJeffCT]

14. I know, he actually had the nerve to agree with McCain

that being shot down doesn't qualify McCain to be president.

[DevonRex]

3. Spot on. And thanks. He'll pick the one who helps us win and

who could actually bring some expertise to the ticket. Nobody is perfect but nobody is all bad, either. That's just life.

[TwilightGardener]

4. I agree--we've been around the block on just about everybody (although

I still think Jack Reed is best!). I hope Obama's staff isn't listening to us, or they'd have nobody left to consider.

[TwilightGardener]

6. BTW, you left out Sebelius...

:boring:

[SidneyCarton]

12. OOPS!

Katherine Sebelius: Bland, not Hillary, therefore :nuke:

[tridim]

5. He should just pick Dick Cheney and be done with it.

Maybe Dan Quayle?

Honestly I'm not worried at all. Obama will make the correct choice.

[Avalux]

10. Your post has a problem.

There's nothing wrong with debating over the candidates and their flaws; your 'descriptions' of those candidates are extreme and I haven't seen them posted here. Why did you choose to do that?

[SidneyCarton]

13. You haven't seen some of these characterizations?

They are perhaps not evident in all the OP's in GD-P in the last month, but they have definitely been in evidence in the responses. Extremism is the spice of GD-P

[DevonRex]

15. I've seen them all. We need to remember that they're all human.

Nobody is perfect. We won't agree with anyone 100%.

So, I liked your post.

[SidneyCarton]

16. Okay, while I find the responses I've gotten here gratifying, I realize I should have added:

:sarcasm:

These aren't my opinions. With the exception of Bayh, (Who I know nothing about) I see pros and cons with each option listed above. To the Clarkies, please don't be offended, I would love to see Gen. Clark as VP, I think he would do well.

Edited to correct grammar.

[bigwillq]

17. We have the right

to offer our opinion, assessment and reaction to a list of possible VP candidates.

Some of the candidates are better than others; some are worse.
Some of the traits you listed for each above are true...those are the facts.

I think debate is good.

[SidneyCarton]

18. Debate is fine, my post is satirical.

Perhaps a "terrorist fist bump" would have given it away?

:sarcasm:

[bigwillq]

24. The sarcasm smilie

would've helped. Before you added it, I took the post at face value. There was nothing in that post to suggest otherwise.

[SidneyCarton]

26. apologies, I thought that skewering everyone would help give the hint.

[Renew Deal]

19. I suggest LynneSin

She is a hit at DU and qualified for the job. Also, she helps with the woman vote.

[SidneyCarton]

21. But Delaware isn't in play...

And I hear there's a vehement anti-toll element here at DU, particularly among Marylanders, who will have serious problems with her candidacy.

(With apologies to LynneSin, for bringing up the tolls, a gag that has long run its course.)

[JVS]

36. She wants Biden to be in

[SidneyCarton]

40. I like Biden too.

I'd rather have him as Sec. of State, but would be glad either way. For sheer comedy value alone Biden would be priceless.

[Renew Deal]

20. I haven't seen anyone suggest Bayh is a racist.

Thankfully missed that.

[SidneyCarton]

23. I saw it in a thread yesterday.

As with so many other allegations, there was nothing to back it up.

[FrenchieCat]

28. I am glad too.

TOo many are waiting to call out Obama on whomever his choice might be.

Folks here act just like the media, not even giving Obama benefit of the doubt.

[SidneyCarton]

31. The media has conditioned us to run like scared sheep/lemmings

every time a new "crisis" happens. Someone coined the term nontroversy a while back here on GD-P, I think it really applies to the VP race. Vice Presidents are important, but nowhere near as important as we make them out to be. We should be so lucky, Obama truly has an embarassment of riches as to talent to choose from for a VP. Look at the fine collection of mutants, throwbacks and crooks that McCain has to pick from if you want some entertainment.

:scared:

[A-Schwarzenegger]

30. Chauncey Gardner.

:*

[SidneyCarton]

32. Who?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

34. Dark horse, quiet guy, likes to watch.

[SidneyCarton]

38. OK

Naah, we'd end up criticizing him for not effectively attacking the Pubs...

Nice try though.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

43. "The corrupt Republican corn needs lots of nitrogen and ladybugs"

is how Chauncey recently put it.

[slick8790]

37. Bahaha. 10 points. n/t

[Mabus]

41. I thought Lieberman was going with McCain

:yoiks:

[NorthCarolina]

44. Out of those I guess I'd have to go with "Loose Canon" Clark

Bayh and Kaine ARE homophobic bigots, that's fact, not speculation, so they're entirely unsuitable in my book.

[Connie_Corleone]

45. You forgot Sebelius: Boring SOTU response; not Hillary.

Sebelius is my pick.

[SidneyCarton]

47. I truly don't know Gov. Sebelius all that well...

She seems well spoken, and as a Dem governing a Red State, she has experience working with opposition, which seems to work in her favor. That said I think this will really dredge up some BS from the primaries, because if Obama picks a woman, there will be an open question as to why he didn't pick Senator Clinton.

[SidneyCarton]

50. Shameless kick for self promotion

n/t

[Alter Ego]

53. If he was he'd be more confused than a dog with two heads chasing one tail.

[salonghorn70]

54. Just Wait

Until DU takes out after Schweitzer's dog.

[SidneyCarton]

55. Oh yeah, he's gotta have a cat, right?

Otherwise we don't get the LOL Cat vote, considered crucial to win.

[Motown_Johnny]

56. Richardson..... umm... well he helps fight the "to Skinny" slur

[SidneyCarton]

57. Yup....

But can't you hear it:

Helps in the west but not in the south...
Doesn't help get White working class voters...
He has a beard !!!11!!!
Snub to Clinton voters
etc., etc.