OMFG... Obama actually used the L word!!

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

Barack Obama just said the Republicans are lying about what his energy plan calls for.

Not dissembling, prevaricating, being disingenuous, misrepresenting, twisting, stretching the truth, shading, spinning. trimming, telling only half the story, fibbing or saying things that just aren't true.

"Lying."

Obama went on to say, "It's as if they're proud of being ignorant."

So the gloves are off.

There's a long-standing unwritten rule that "lie" and "liar" are not used in national politics. When Kerry called the pugs liars in 2004 in a private conversation captured on a hot mic it was a big TV news story. In 1988 when Bob Dole told GHW Bush to, "Stop lying about my record," people passed out on the spot.

But under Bush II things have gotten to the point where not saying LIAR has become a literary exercise comparable to writing a novel without using the letter "E."

So I whole-heartedly support the end of the L-word ban. (And note the advent of the new "bullshit" ban... it will probably be a few more election cycles before that rhetorical line is breeched.)

As a purely political matter, it will be interesting to see if McCain follows suit.

[katandmoon]

1. GOOD -- call the lying, ignorant fuckers OUT

[Pisces]

17. I double that statement!!!

[Bobbie Jo]

2. Yeah, that's right....LYING!

...and I'm quite sure they're proud of that too. :eyes:

[SpiralHawk]

3. Yes, call the lying republicon liars liars.

America already knows it is the truth about republicons.

But it is -- publically at least -- a more or less unspoken truth.

Speaking the truth about republicon lies and propaganda establishes this accurate narrative all the more vividly.

[Tim4319]

4. Barack is playing the "L" card from the bottom of the deck!

[blondeatlast]

7. You beat me to it; glad someone did! nt

[AtomicKitten]

5. Smack 'em upside the head, Barack.

[NewJeffCT]

6. good for him

now, why can't he say they're lying about offshore drilling?

[proud patriot]

8. Woo Hoo

:woohoo:

[GoForTheJugular]

9. God yes...

I dont know why this word is banned... They've been lying for years now...

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

12. professional courtesy... like doctors not testifying in malpractice suits

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

39. dupe, sorry

[TheDonkey]

10. I turned on the MSM for the first time and they've been talking about other things

they must be nervous as shit again. They are focused on Sturgis.

[butterfly77]

11. Yeah. Don't you love it...

that was for Lindsay Graham on Sunday. This is the one thing I have posted about many times how no one seemed to call bush out on his LIES.

[Kahuna]

13. He should use it often. nt

[elehhhhna]

14. how could he NOT? LOL

[truthisfreedom]

15. If the media runs with this, they're totally screwn. They'll have to examine the record,

and they'll have to face that mclame has been lying non-stop.

[Indenturedebtor]

18. YES! Keep saying it Obama! Put their filthy little piggy feet to the fire!

Go Get EM! :woohoo:

[nc4bo]

16. whoops: Error: You've already recommended that thread. lol

Yes indeedy!

[anonymous171]

19. YES!

Great response!
And I thought Biden already broke through the "bullshit" ban?

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

25. And Cheney broke through the "Go fuck yourself" barrier

[TheBigotBasher]

20. And I thought

you were going to say "Liberal". I still wonder why a Democrat can not say that they are Liberal. What is wrong in wanting small but effective government that looks out for its people as opposed to big ineffective military government that spies on its people?

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

30. Y'know, I didn't think of that. You're quite right. Liberal has been called the L word

And with good reason... sadly, it's not used by politicians much anymore.

[Median Democrat]

21. Actually, McCain Camp Has Been Accusing Obama Of Lying For Some Time Now

For example, the McCain campaign has stated that Obama is lying by denying that he ever accused McCain of being racist. So, McCain already breached this barrier a while back:

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/08/01/the-filter-august-1-2008.aspx

[CitizenPatriot]

38. good one

we need to make sure Obama and Media Matters have this info.

Is there any other place to get the word out ... preemptively? Oh, gosh. where did I ever come up with that idea?

[BreweryYardRat]

22. Woo ha ha!

Nicely done!

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

23. Hey! Look! Somebody just opened a can of whupass!

The more Obama says it, the sooner the MSM will have to report on it. And when they report on it, somebody (somewhere) will finally get the picture that McCain has been a lying sack of shit from day one.

They have to either ignore a HUGE story line or actually do their jobs. Be interesting to see who cracks.

[Zenlitened]

24. Sweet. K&R

[Willo]

26. Excellent

Now when Obama attacks and the media goes after him by lying, spinning and distracting on McCain's behalf

DUers be sure to have his back!

[quantass]

27. Fantastic!

[WinkyDink]

28. Next up: "TREASON." To be followed by : "WAR CRIMINALS."

[JeffR]

29. Good catch!

That was a great thing to hear.

[Enrique]

31. Obama is definitely doing something we haven't seen before

like you say, he's breaking some unwritten rules. I am glad to see it.

[Alter Ego]

32. So someone finally said it.

Not "misspeaking", not "overestimating" or "underestimating", it's LYING.

Obama has seriously impressed me in the past few days--and I didn't think I could have a higher opinion of the man than I already do.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

33. Funny that it has gone by without comment

I am sure that most long-time political observers noticed it, but couldn't figure how to comment on it...

Even when Clinton was being impeached for perjury most pugs didn't call him a "liar" on camera. (Some did, most did not)

Kerry never called Bush a liar (publicly) during 2004, and I'm not sure he ever even called the swift-boaters liars. If he did, it didn't stick in memory.

Negative ads with horror movie music and photo-shopped images that imply a candidate is an active member of Al Queada still say "misrepresent."

But most people are not conscious of the of the informal ban, so when Kerry didn't dismiss pugs as liars it implied there was something to what they said. Political speech had moved too far from everyday speech to the point where it was not emotionally authentic.

[Major Hogwash]

36. I agree.

If Kerry would have come out just one time and called the swiftboaters liars and said it with force, everyone would have understood what he meant.

Truman used straight talk, without all of the niceties of trying to be civil.

Screw that, call it what it is, lying.

[progressoid]

34. He's going become a PRO at saying after 3 debates.

[lebkuchen]

35. it is this kind of talk that makes me want to contribute to his campaign

again.

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

37. Repukes are liars!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxrXq-JWXu4

[jillan]

40. You go Obama! Love that he said it, :) nt