Morning socialism

[ccharles000]

Did anybody see Morning Joe, when Joe said that Obamas oil plan is "socialist", and when he complained about Obamas "McCain is not a maverick" ad because it had a heartbeat.


:puke:

[bunkerbuster1]

1. They've worn out "liberal" as an epithet so now they have to make up a new name

I hear "Socialist" tossed around a lot these days by people who surely, at some point in their lives, knew what "Socialism" actually means.

[zbdent]

3. you now have people who worship a cardboard cutout of George W. Bush saying

that people are "swooning" and fainting in a religious fervor over Obama ...

:eyes::puke:

[nerddem]

4. yeah, i encountered the same thing

an old friend of mine from high school recently asked why i support obama, i thought he may have been trying to make up his mind, but he replied to my thing with what looked like copied-and-pasted standard issue replies. i mean, i guess he could have wrote it, but i don't remember him having that kind of tone.

in there he said something about obama being "mesmerizing" but that it was a bad thing because it "the message is socialism." i didn't think too much about it but now i see that it's a talking point they put out.

[bunkerbuster1]

7. Yeah, I've heard about all of the dogwhistles...

"arrogant", "I don't know this guy," and "aloof" are, as previously stated, code for "n*gger."

"Socialist" basically means anything resembling a more progressive tax structure; i.e., if you let the stupid tax cuts for over $250K incomes lapse, you're "socialist." But that pretext lets them lump in everything else scary about the imaginary left-wing; since all those Communist countries claimed to be "socialist," that means Obama wants to send red-blooded Americans to re-education camps, where boys will be forced to wear dresses and girls will don strap-ons, or something.

Ok, I might be overstating a tad, but then I'm just reacting to a political side that thinks WE worship Obama like a god (they obviously never read DU, or any other progressive sites), and that WE play the "race card" by simply mentioning that the GOP routinely tries to scare people.

[ErinBerin84]

2. Joe Scaborough is such a dork.

I didn't watch it, but he's probably pissed that some people saw subliminal messages in the Paris ad (I didn't really think so, but I could see how some people could interpret it that way). Do you remember when he went on an "Obama is trying to exploit McCain's age by saying that he is confused about the facts" tangent ? He was so over the top about it. Here's part of the transcript by media matters. And they're totally twisting Susan Rice's words in the process, not surprisingly.



http://mediamatters.org/items/200806120010

SCARBOROUGH: And we have seen a peek at the Obama campaign's strategy for the fall.

BRZEZINSKI: Yeah.

SCARBOROUGH: And his strategy is this: He's a doddering, old, confused fool.

BRZEZINSKI: Well now, that's not quite nice. Is that what they're saying?

SCARBOROUGH: He needs to go to Miami Beach and just play checkers because he's confused by fast movement.

BRZEZINSKI: That's not what they're saying.

GEIST: It's almost like he's disoriented.

BRZEZINSKI: Now, stop it.

SCARBOROUGH: Well, that's actually Barack Obama a couple weeks ago was talking about how, oh, he must be confused. Yesterday, you'll notice, Susan Rice, who's going to be on today, was talking about how he must just be confused; John Kerry, he used the same word, he's confused. So, John McCain is old and confused and scares easily. So --

BRZEZINSKI: Yes, but if you look at the --

SCARBOROUGH: That's his strategy. But this is -- this is also, though, Mika -- if you look at John McCain saying what he said before about 100 years in Iraq, even though Frank Rich said the Obama campaign was twisting and distorting that -- you take that and then you take this, which is also being wrenched from its proper context. But that's politics.


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SCARBOROUGH: Obama's campaign would have us believe that John McCain stepped away from the checkers board in Boca --

BRZEZINSKI: Bingo.

SCARBOROUGH: -- got out of his jumpsuit and got on the Today show yesterday --

BRZEZINSKI: Bingo.

SCARBOROUGH: -- and had a couple of comments. He was confused and disoriented.


snip


SCARBOROUGH: I was looking for some milk and crackers before I get the Ben-Gay and the liniment and rubbed it on and went to sleep. So -- you know, it's funny, I had my dinner at 4, and --

GEIST: Early bird special.

SCARBOROUGH: -- they brought in the creams and ointments, and I should be on top of the world today. Did you hear what she said? A disturbing -- and again, I love what they're doing here. This is just so Clintonian of them. You would -- they've learned. Susan Rice says, "Well, you know, it's a disturbing, disturbing pattern of confusing basic facts and reality." They are painting him as a doddering old fool.

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

5. "Socialist" energy plans would be a huge improvement, but that's not what Obama is suggesting.

Wish he would though. Some industries simply should not be "for profit". Energy and healthcare would be two of the most obvious.

[ellacott]

6. I wish he would also

I don't see anything wrong with nationalizing those companies.