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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:22 AM
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So, when is Jimmy Carter speaking at the convention?
Isn't he also a former President?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:24 AM
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1. I wish they'd put all three Clintons on one night, and then TURN THE PAGE...
It would be wonderful to have Carter and Gore together for an energy summit at the convention!
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 12:05 PM
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7. Bill, Hillary and George Clinton?
hmmm...
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 12:10 PM
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8. Okay four Clintons, with Chelsea...
I think it's a mistake to give them two of the four nights, when this election is about the future.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:25 PM
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13. You are so completely ignorant and tone-deaf. I question your motives.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:28 PM
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You're as nasty as the Clintons - congrats!
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:31 PM
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17. I think you better looking in the mirror. Or at least look at the type of comments you post. You are
divisive and you like it.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:40 PM
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19. Look again - my posts about the convention are civil and you resort to name-calling...
I'm not going to apologize for not wanting the Clintons to take over Obama's convention. He is our nominee.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:52 PM
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25. Taking over the convention? Do you really think that Obama would be speaking on Tuesday & Wednesday
night if Hillary and Bill weren't speaking on those nights?!? I mean, they needs speakers for those nights and I think the Clintons have just as much right to speak as anyone else. Oh, and it's the DEMOCRATIC convention! Obama's night is Thursday night when he accepts the nomination. Michelle is speaking on Monday night.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:24 PM
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12. Turn the page on a sitting US senator and a woman who ran an historic campaign, and received 18
millions votes? Really?!? Why do you hate UNITY?
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:31 PM
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16. Yes, turn the page and focus on our nominee and not what
could have been. Yes, she ran a historic (although negative) campaign. She had tremendous support. That is wonderful. However, she is not the nominee. Let her have her night. Let her shine. Let her supporters enjoy that night. However, then we should focus on our nominee.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:32 PM
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18. Yes, it's time to turn the page on the Bush regime & the ugly politics of the Clinton machine...
Fortunately the vast majority of those 18 million voters are actually Democrats, who now support the nominee. This convention is about OBAMA and THE FUTURE ~ it is not The Clinton Show.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:41 PM
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20. Supporting Obama DOES NOT mean bashing Hillary, or having to stand for it.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:44 PM
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21. Saying it's time to turn the page is a far cry from bashing. How ridiculous.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:49 PM
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22. I think you know what "Turning the page" implies. It's not a positive statement, that's for sure.
You're talking about "Turning the page" from the Clintons, not the Kennedys, not Jimmy Carter, not John Kerry, not Al Gore, etc., etc. You're suggesting Bill and Hillary belong in the past and should be ignored.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:54 PM
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26. You're obviously very defensive about the Clintons...
Obama's campaign is about CHANGE ~ turning the page. Like it or not, the Clintons are very much a part of the "old politics" that Obama wants to move away from.

McCain is running an ad right now that includes a clip of Hillary trashing Obama ~ there is no equivalent comment made by Obama about Hillary.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:03 PM
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32. I'm not getting into this. There's a few things I'd like to say in response, but for the sake of
unity I'll shut up now.
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Arnold Judas Rimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:01 PM
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31. Well, the DLC should definitely be left in the past.
If the Clintons are willing to part with the DLC and corporatism, as other former DLC'ers have, then they can be part of the future.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:06 PM
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33. Ridiculous statement. What, are you purging the Democratic party now? Good luck in November, then.
There are many Democrats who are WAY more Conservative than Hillary (and endorse Obama during the primaries), but if you think you can win without them good luck! Oh, and Obama voted FOR FISA so let's not be so holier-than-thou about corporate interests (I do believe AT&T is sponsoring the convention, isn't it?).
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:07 PM
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34. They belong to the past and should be left there. No one should ignore what Bill accomplished .....
as President, but that was then and this is now. I am as interested in reliving the Bill Clinton Presidency as about as much as I am in living in the days before the internet. It's nice to talk about them every once in a while, but when you have work to be done it makes no sense in going backwards.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:13 PM
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39. Except Hillary is a sitting US Senator RIGHT NOW. IN THE PRESENT.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:37 PM
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42. Who lost the nomination to Barack Obama. She's history when it comes to the Democratic primary ....
and being elected President. Since she has stopped campaigning for President, she has not introduced any new legislation of significant importance.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:40 PM
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43. So are these"
Akaka, Daniel K.- (D - HI) Class I
*Baucus, Max- (D - MT) Class II
*Bayh, Evan- (D - IN) Class III
Biden, Joseph R., Jr.- (D - DE) Class II
Boxer, Barbara- (D - CA) Class III
Brown, Sherrod- (D - OH) Class I
Byrd, Robert C.- (D - WV) Class I
Cantwell, Maria- (D - WA) Class I
Cardin, Benjamin L.- (D - MD) Class I
Carper, Thomas R.- (D - DE) Class I
Casey, Robert P., Jr.- (D - PA) Class I
Conrad, Kent- (D - ND) Class I
Dodd, Christopher J.- (D - CT) Class III
Dorgan, Byron L.- (D - ND) Class III
Durbin, Richard- (D - IL) Class II
Feingold, Russell D.- (D - WI) Class III
Feinstein, Dianne- (D - CA) Class I
Harkin, Tom- (D - IA) Class II
Inouye, Daniel K.- (D - HI) Class III
Johnson, Tim- (D - SD) Class II
Kennedy, Edward M.- (D - MA) Class I
Kerry, John F.- (D - MA) Class II
Klobuchar, Amy- (D - MN) Class I
Kohl, Herb- (D - WI) Class I
Landrieu, Mary L.- (D - LA) Class II
Lautenberg, Frank R.- (D - NJ) Class II
Leahy, Patrick J.- (D - VT) Class III
Levin, Carl- (D - MI) Class II
Lincoln, Blanche L.- (D - AR) Class III
McCaskill, Claire- (D - MO) Class I
Menendez, Robert- (D - NJ) Class I
Mikulski, Barbara A.- (D - MD) Class III
Murray, Patty- (D - WA) Class III
Nelson, Bill- (D - FL) Class I
Nelson, E. Benjamin- (D - ND) Class I
Pryor, Mark L.- (D - AR) Class II
Reed, Jack- (D - RI) Class II
Reid, Harry- (D - NV) Class III
Rockefeller, John D., IV- (D - WV) Class II
Salazar, Ken- (D - CO) Class III
Schumer, Charles E.- (D - NY) Class III
Stabenow, Debbie- (D - MI) Class I
Tester, Jon- (D - MT) Class I
Webb, Jim- (D - VA) Class I
Whitehouse, Sheldon- (D - RI) Class I
Wyden, Ron- (D - OR) Class III

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:09 PM
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35. Then you haven't seen the Chelseas inroducing HRC thread
It's Like Free Republic.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:10 PM
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36. What's that got to do with "turning the page?"
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:12 PM
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38. What's that have to do with bashing?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:13 PM
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40. Wanting to turn the page ISN'T bashing - so what are you talking about?
Edited on Sun Aug-10-08 03:14 PM by polichick
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:50 PM
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24. Have Carter remind people of what he proposed in the 70's.
Then have Gore follow up. It would make a very strong point that environmentalists and Democrats were right all along and that we need to stop listening to the party of the oil barons.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:55 PM
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27. That would be a great idea..... Carter then Gore
on the same theme but with different historical perspectives
but with unity and vision.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:26 AM
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2. I would LOVE a Carter speech on what those f wads did to his FEMA!
The dems need to discuss New Orleans more.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:30 AM
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3. Amen!! Obama needs to come out with an ad showing
McCain and Bush celebrating his (McCain's) birthday while an American city was left to drown.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:52 AM
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5. And to hisincentives for alternative energy
we'd already be energy independant
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:40 AM
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4. Will the political Activist daughter Amy Carter introduce Jimmy?
Vs a hedge fund employee?


Amy Carter later became known for her political activism, participating in a number of sit-ins and protests during the 1980s and early 1990s, aimed at changing U.S. foreign policy towards South Africa and Central America. Along with activist Abbie Hoffman and thirteen others, she was arrested during a 1987 demonstration at the University of Massachusetts for protesting CIA recruitment there. She was acquitted of all charges in a well-publicized trial in Northampton, Massachusetts.

In September 1996, Carter married computer consultant James Gregory Wentzel, whom she had met while attending Tulane. Ms. Carter chose not to be "given away," stating that she "belonged to no one." Ms. Carter and Mr. Wentzel both kept their own family names. The couple moved to the Atlanta area, where they have focused on raising their son Hugo James Wentzel (born July 29, 1999). Since the late 1990s, Carter has maintained a low profile, neither participating in public protests nor granting interviews; she is a board member of the Carter Center that advocates human rights and diplomacy as established by her father.


I know she doesn't want to be in the spot light, but I always liked Amy.


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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:56 PM
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28. Amy has followed in her father's footsteps. Guess you could say the same about Chelsea. n/t
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:55 AM
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6. They gave him such a hard time for telling the truth about Bush at the last convention !
When we had our last convention-- that really lame "showing up for duty" crap in which NO ONE WAS ALLOWED TO CRITICIZE THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION -- for Pete's Sake, in the middle of all the criminality of Bush Cheney some lame idiots decide we gotta have hearts and flowers and a whole series of speakers just talks about the good stuff after the Abu Ghraib revelations and mothers having to hold bake sales to buy armor for the soldiers so we could pay billions to Halliburton. So Jimmy Carter gets up and figures that as an elder statesman he can let some of his anger at the Bush policies slip into his speech and he was criticized for it !! (We gave the corporate news the ammo-- we were going to have a positive convention. So any speaker who honestly criticized the administration gave the TV news-chat goons an opening to trash Democrats for being mean when they said they were gonna play nice.)

I hope this convention will be different and will allow Democrats to expose the blatant criminality and heap of blunders perpetrated by the Bush-Cheney administration,

The feel-good hearts & flowers crap was very frustrating to watch, as a Democrat.

Let's hope, since Barack has shown that we can be courteous and honestly critical at the same time, Democrats will be allowed to openly discuss the war profiteering of the Republicans that has destroyed our economy and trashed our Bill of Rights.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 12:57 PM
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9. Few people want to hear him. It's that simple. nt
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 01:01 PM
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10. That may not be the case now. His energy ideas are back in the news.
I think it would thrill the Dems at the Convention to hear him talk about his work "back in the day" to get America thinking seriously about energy conservation and alternate energy sources. It would paint the repubs in a very bad light (but of course lots of Dems weren't very good either...)
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:06 PM
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11. that might have changed now that history has proven him right
Edited on Sun Aug-10-08 02:09 PM by Douglas Carpenter
on energy conservaton, on diplomacy, on budget management,and more recently on George W. Bush...in fact on just about everything
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:27 PM
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14. I would love to hear Jimmy speak at the convention
He gave a speech recently in England and got a standing ovation
by thousands.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:50 PM
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23. "Senator John Warner,....said that Jimmy Carter "was right"
when he called for a massive program of energy conservation and alternative energy research.
....

Warner has recently discovered the threat posed by global warming through his discussions with Pentagon brass who are concerned about the submerging of Naval ports around the world as the oceans rise. Though he is late to the ball, Warner readily admitted the country was asleep at the switch for the last three decades.

http://www.sciencefriday.com/blog/index.php?archives/323-John-Warner-Jimmy-Carter-Was-Right.html
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:58 PM
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30. I'd so much rather hear Carter speak than the Clinton Clan. n/t
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:12 PM
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37. Clintons will bring MUCH higher ratings than Carter.
That's why I want Hillary, Bill, Jimmy, AND Al to speak.
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:28 PM
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15. I would love to see Carter (and I'd REALLY like to see Gore)
I HOPE Gore accepts if he is asked.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:57 PM
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29. I wish the third night would be an "energy summit" incl. Carter and Gore!
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:26 PM
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41. The agenda hasn't been announced yet but he spoke at the 2004 convention
So he'll probably speak at this one too. The agenda hasn't been posted yet though so it's hard to say when he'll speak.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 10:05 PM
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45. Kerry asked him after no one since 1980 did
I hope Obama will ask him - and Gore and Kerry.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 07:48 PM
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44. Good question. We get three Clinton's speaking and no word on Carter.
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