McCain's Fellow POW & Eyewitness To "Cross In The Dirt" = Swiftboater & More

[kpete]

Who Is Orson Swindle And Why The Hell Should We Believe Him?
By: David Neiwert Tuesday August 19, 2008 5:48 am


The exquisitely named Orson Swindle has stepped up to claim that he remembers John McCain telling the "cross in the dirt" tale back in the early '70s, even though the earliest appearance of it in any speech of McCain's is in 2000. The wingnutosphere invariably is describing him as "a fellow POW." But as usual, he's much more than that.

Of course, this is all about people claiming to be eyewitnesses to certain events, and the only evidence is their say-so, which makes their credibility paramount.

How credible, exactly, is Orson Swindle? Well, consider, for instance:

Swindle served as executive director of "United We Stand, America", and spokesman for Ross Perot's 1992 presidential campaign.

Swindle is a Senior Policy Advisor at the lobbying firm of Hunton & Williams in Washington, DC. ...

Swindle is also on the board of Citizens Against Government Waste (CAGW), an independent political advocacy group that seeks to eliminate waste, mismanagement, and inefficiency in the federal government. Throughout its history, CAGW has been accused of fronting lobbying efforts of corporations to give them the appearance of "grassroots" support. In part, this is because CAGW has accepted donations from Phillip Morris, the Olin Foundation, the Bradley Foundation, Microsoft, Merrill-Lynch, and Exxon-Mobil. CAGW also has ties to convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff. While CAGW describes itself as non-partisan, it has endorsed John McCain for president and donated $11,000 to his campaign or groups controlled by him.

OK, so here we have a lobbyist -- one of many on McCain's support team -- who's also a right-wing Republican operative with a history of setting up sham "grassroots" organizations that do the bidding of business and corporate interests. He's pouring thousands of dollars into McCain's campaign and lining up thousands more.

And you want us to take his story backing up McCain at face value?

Sure we will.

more at:
http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/who-is-orson-swindle-and-why-the-hell-should-we-believe-him/

[berni_mccoy]

1. His "VERIFICATION" has already been debunked with his own words

Back in April, he said McCain never talked about religion.

Here's my journal article on it:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/berni_mccoy/438

[Epiphany4z]

2. gee how many

of Kerry's fellow vets who where actually with him went on to debunk the no so swift boaters ...did they believe them?...and yet one .. one guy a republican..working for McCain...a lobbyist...whose own journal contradicts him..we should take his word...they really have no shame.

[rainy]

3. Really, one guys steps up and says it's true, end of discussion. You are

right on about all the vets who stepped up to support Kerry and no one listened or even invited them to tell their story on air like all the liars were allowed to do.

[CitizenPatriot]

4. what happens now in the rove playbook?

like, i we were rove and McCain were kerry, what would be the next move?

[endthewar]

5. Look the other way when the 527s go after McCain

and if the media isn't picking up their stories, reject and denounce them to call attention to them. :rofl:

[CitizenPatriot]

6. hee hee! I like@!