Drunken Irishman
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Tue Aug-19-08 02:26 PM
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Would Biden help in Ohio? |
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His working class roots, Irish-Catholic background could play well in some parts of Ohio, right?
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Tue Aug-19-08 02:29 PM
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1. O'bama doesn't need help because he is Irish himself. |
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But seriously there are lots of demographics. I just hope mcstupid choses lieberman for the Jewish vote. mcstupid will NEVER get the majority of the Jewish vote.
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Tue Aug-19-08 02:30 PM
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Tue Aug-19-08 02:30 PM
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2. No. Strickland, Hillary and Sebelius would help there |
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Tue Aug-19-08 03:06 PM
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15. Hillary sunk Strickland for many here. |
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Bobble head Ted and his disgusting display was well...just that.
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Tue Aug-19-08 02:30 PM
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3. Does Biden have the feel of a "working class" guy? |
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I never thought so. Not criticizing him, just saying that I never got that blue-collar vibe from him.
But that's just me.
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Tue Aug-19-08 02:30 PM
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4. Nothing about Biden today says "working class." |
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From his lifetime in Washington to his silk front pocket handkerchief. Its hard to think of a candidate with less working class appeal.
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Tue Aug-19-08 02:31 PM
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7. Some photo ops drinking shots of Bourbon might help nt |
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Tue Aug-19-08 02:34 PM
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Maybe he could rent a red pickup like Fred Thompson.
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Tue Aug-19-08 02:30 PM
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I like him...but then I liked Kerry and Edwards and Dean....Ohio is hard to place...I do think Obama is doing better here than Kerry did..I know a few more republicans that will voting for him...not a great indicator...but at this point I will take what I can get.
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Tue Aug-19-08 02:30 PM
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6. Sure he could help there. |
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Tue Aug-19-08 02:34 PM
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9. I think that his roots plus the fact that his son is in the National |
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Guard and is probably in Iraq if his unit deployed this year as they were slated to. Not 100% sure on that, but I know he was supposed to be going sometime this year.
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Tue Aug-19-08 02:39 PM
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10. I just read he's supposed to be going to Iraq next month. |
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Tue Aug-19-08 02:44 PM
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11. Why would a NAFTA/2005 Bankruptcy Bill supporter from Delaware help in Ohio??? nt |
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Tue Aug-19-08 02:46 PM
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How did a NAFTA supporting, working class hating, president win in Ohio?
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Tue Aug-19-08 02:49 PM
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13. By default (both candidates in '04, supported NAFTA...) |
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When NAFTA supporter number 1 opposes NAFTA supporter number 2, then a NAFTA supporter will undoubtedly win the presidency.
It does not follow from this, however, that being a NAFTA supporter is an advantage in the economically devastated rustbelt. :wtf:
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Tue Aug-19-08 03:08 PM
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16. Well McCain is far more pro-NAFTA than Obama... |
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Tue Aug-19-08 04:07 PM
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20. NAFTA is not an ala carte menu. So being "far more pro-NAFTA" makes no sense. BOTH support it. nt |
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Tue Aug-19-08 04:24 PM
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Since both McCain and Obama are in support of it, adding Biden won't hurt him there...so why even say it will?
haha
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Tue Aug-19-08 04:54 PM
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22. VPs are supposed to add a dimension that the candidate for prez lacks... |
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My whole point is that Biden, as a NAFTA/Bankruptcy Bill of 2005 supporter, adds little to nothing to the ticket with respect to economic issues important to rustbelt voters...
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Tue Aug-19-08 02:57 PM
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14. Not to be rude but he's male and white... |
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Most of these Ohio folk would think that that was two steps in the right direction.
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Tue Aug-19-08 03:08 PM
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And he won't help in Virginia or New Mexico or Arizona or Florida.
I don't dislike Biden. I think he's very smart, but he's not going to help.
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Tue Aug-19-08 03:14 PM
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18. Fear card will be played everywhere, as well as stupid macho posturing. |
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Still need foreign policy, and not as SoS. I wish all Dems would give a good accounting on the trail, know our candidate, want him to win. A VP shouldn't be this important, but shoring up reassurance is important, after all the negatives from the other side.
I wish CNN played the critical part of the VA speech. Direct hit on judgment and what's at stake. That speech needs to go viral.
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