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aaroh Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:32 PM
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Anyone else fustrated with Obama's campaign?
Edited on Tue Aug-19-08 03:35 PM by aaroh
I have to hand it to the republicans, the one thing they're good at is attacking and attacking consistently.
Obama needs to jot down a list of attacking points, get the message accross to all his surrogates and start blanketing the airwaves with the same lines of attack until the message sings like a commercial jingle in the back of every voters head. Do this every day til election day.

Right now Obama is attacking McCain now and then, but look at his surrogates, They're not even parroting the same lines of attack. People have a short-term memory and talking points will only stick if the media keeps repeating the same line of attacks.

Bottom line: attack smart, attack hard, attack together.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:36 PM
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1. Surrogates like John Kerry ARE doing the dirty work....

Just not enough of them, you are right.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:44 PM
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7. And Wes Clark was doing fine until MSM and McShame whined about it
and the Obama Campaign threw Wes under the bus x(
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President Decider Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:37 PM
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2. Yeah, Repubs love to attack ..... but they never seem to have an EXIT strategy!


...sorry, I couldn't resist.
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:39 PM
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3. Can You Wait Until The....
Edited on Tue Aug-19-08 03:41 PM by rsmith6621

.....Convention-s get over with....no need at this time to bring out the attack machine now....let's let Obama keep on message....that is something McLame can't do.....


I'm sure that his strategic team has plenty of responses planned out the last two month....then only then Lameass will have left is the same old worn out lines...

Also there is the debates to put PIE right back in Lameasses face live in real time on TV...

Patients Grasshopper
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:57 PM
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12. So What's The Message? McCain Wants To Serve America And Is A Good Guy?
Edited on Tue Aug-19-08 04:02 PM by Better Believe It
I think Obama just picked up more votes for McCain today. The press portrayed Obama as "defending" himself from McCain's blasts. If that continues until election day, the Democrats will once again have blown an election that was theirs for the taking. McCain should be on the defense, not Obama. Here's what Obama told the Veterans of Foreign Wars meeting today:

"I have never suggested that Sen. McCain picks his positions on national security based on politics or personal ambition,"

Well you should Obama if you want to win this election!

"I have not suggested it because I believe that he genuinely wants to serve America's national interest."

Bull shit! You don't really believe that now, do you Obama? If not, why say that??? McCain wants to drag this nation into a war with Russia, Iran and any other country he doesn't like!

"Now it's time for him to acknowledge that I want to do the same."

McCain will never do that. Go after the sob where he should be at his weakest. The issue of war and more wars .... so-called "national security"
Paint him as a right-wing Bushite who get this nation into more wars. In other words, tell the truth about the mf!

Can't do that? Well, step aside and let someone else do that who really wants to become President. Not sure who that might be but I'll exclude Hillary. Perhaps Biden?
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aaroh Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:02 PM
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14. you gotta defend attacks though
but then you need to follow-up with a counter-attack, put the opponent off-guard.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:09 PM
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15. I Understand That
Can you imagine fighting without throwing any punches?

I don't care how good you are in defending yourself from punches, you can't win the fight without delivering powerful blows that land.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:41 PM
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4. Ya know, if you replace "Republican" with Clinton"
your post would be reminiscent of what I saw from a lot of Obama supporters during the primaries.

Relax, let Obama run his campaign his way.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:41 PM
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5. Yes, let's attack back and make the campaign so ugly that people don't want to vote
for the "lesser of two evils." That's the game Republicans play in every election because in the long run it ALWAYS helps them more.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:47 PM
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8. I agree! NT
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aaroh Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:57 PM
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10. It depends on the line of attack
attacking on policy issues that's fair game,
attacking on religion, race, age, anything derogatory that's below the belt.

attacking is part of politics, it comes with its territory.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:43 PM
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6. No.
I think he is coming along nicely.

And is doing a good job of getting his points out without acting like the trash pukes.

He doesn't have to lower himself to their level. And by so acting, he is making them look so fucking desperate.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:57 PM
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11. I wish I saw it like you did
But I dont. He's letting himself get defined by mccain and by the media (the same thing that happened to Gore and Kerry). His/Our surrogates are either not out there often enough or tough enough. I'm watching polls where Sen Obama is either losing ground or remaining stagnent. I can appreciate wanting to run a decent campaign (decent in terms of moral) but you really can't bring a knife to a gun fight and the pukes are fighting with all the arms they have.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:51 PM
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9. I'm frustrated with
American people who seem to be buying into McCain's endless pandering.

I wish Obama wouldn't have to dumb down his message to reach these idiots.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:00 PM
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13. I am just fine with the Obama campaign
It is his, he needs to be true to himself. He has not done bad so far. The press is just po'd because of their voice on high predictions of who would be the Democratic nominee, fell through the ice of an Iowa pond :)
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:11 PM
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16. It's a marathon, not a sprint
Let McCain spend all his money on attack ads in the summer while Obama paces himself all the way to November.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:12 PM
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17. seems like he has been taking some down time to plan and prepare
While McCain keeps pushing forward. The end result will be fatigue errors for McCain. Try to be patient.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:14 PM
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18. Bill Clinton could get the job done for him!
Just turn Bill loose on FOX or any of the network shows and he would mop the floor with any host like he did with Chris Wallace!
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remember2000forever Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:16 PM
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19. Biden Has A VERY Sharp Tongue....
He, in my opinion, would be a Pit Bull in Obama's defense. Maybe too sharp though?
Guess we'll see "The Pick" soon!
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:18 PM
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20. No, he's doing great! He's ahead in every poll and running better than previous dems in such states
as Indiana, Alaska, Montana, North CArolina, Virginia, Colorado. He will win Iowa and NM which Kerry lost. I don't see why people aren't more up--all of this and we haven't even had our convention or VP announcement.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:19 PM
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21. Obama needs to call McCain a name. That will get coverage.
Edited on Tue Aug-19-08 04:19 PM by anonymous171
I think he should just call him a liar. Then we will all laugh when McCain's campaign sputters something like "BUT MCCAINS WAS A POW, HE CAN'T LIE."
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:24 PM
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22. All policy attacks are fine
I find myself feeling frustrated - once in awhile - that Obama is not attacking McSame the way i would.

But that doesn't mean we stop attacking McSame, even if he occasionally will tells us to stop picking on Johnny.
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27inCali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:30 PM
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23. maybe Obama is spending his time and money
setting up a huge ground game,
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