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Tue Aug-19-08 11:59 PM
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Wed Aug-20-08 12:05 AM
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1. Faces long odds but not out of it yet. |
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:27 PM
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5. After the last few days, ccharles000, I |
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agree. At about the point someone looks like they're cooked, they come roaring back for a media spasm.
Ridge doesn't seem to want to fade out.
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Wed Aug-20-08 12:20 AM
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2. Who knows with McCain? |
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The man was tortured but now says that torture is a-ok.
If he got a poll saying fundies were already soundly behind him, he flip-flop on his "no pro-choice VP" stance in a heartbeat.
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Wed Aug-20-08 02:22 AM
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3. Other = LOSER on the ticket: go for it Johnnie!! |
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:15 AM
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4. Some of the chatter had Ridge on the ascent with McCain |
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going for security over the fundies' issues, then it was dismissed as a failed trial balloon, then again we hear Ridge rumblings.
Puzzlin' evidence, mateys.
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:48 PM
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6. He'd hurt us in Pennsylvania, but the fundies would go crazy. |
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I hope he doesn't pick Ridge.
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:55 PM
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8. Hi, David. Yes -- the fundies would blow their stack almost |
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immediately.
Agree with you that Ridge makes Pennsylvania iffier for us, but let's see what happens to McCain's polling numbers when the fundies abandon him.
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David Zephyr
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:16 PM
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9. Ridge gives me chills. |
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Pennsylvania is so critical to us and that was one of the tippers for me last month when I dropped all my pride and realized that Hillary brings us Pennsylvania and Ohio and Michigan and possibly Florida.
Ridge is pro-choice and is from Pennsylvania. Ridge eats into women voters and takes Pennsylvania away from us.
Crossing my fingers the fundies would nix it.
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:34 PM
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11. I think the blue team carries Pennsylvania, even with Ridge, |
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and in the event of a loss of Pennsylvania (again, I think that's unlikely), Ridge loses the (say) 5% or so of fundie nutbags he needs in swing states to push him over the top.
Which is great, in a way, because it forces him to choose a lackluster droid like Tim Pawlenty or a raving psychotic like Franklin Graham.
There must be MORE than 5% of fundamentalist GOP base voters who will not stomach a pro-Choice nominee on the ticket, no matter what.
That's enough to sink John McCain's campaign, even if he wins Pennsylvania.
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:50 PM
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7. his love of the patriot act could cancel out his pro life positions for the extremist |
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:18 PM
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10. I think McCain will want one Veep and his campaign will want |
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Edited on Wed Aug-20-08 09:18 PM by DebJ
a different one, ha! They can't seem to agree on anything.
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:37 PM
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12. They do seem a bit out-of-synch. It would be great for the team to |
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announce one person and then McCain tell the press it's someone else.
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:37 PM
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13. The strongest choice, thus eliminated by the 'stupid party' |
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Edited on Wed Aug-20-08 09:37 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
McCain will get rolled the same way Kerry allowed Edwards to be fobbed off him. He'll be made to pick some fundie-friendly loser who will be an anchor around his neck in the suburbs.
Being fortunate in ones enemies is important.
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:39 PM
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14. Putting PA into play does seem to be part of their strategy |
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I stick with my pick, though. I think he'll go with Sarah Palin.
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:44 PM
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15. Well, it could be. I wrote her off early but she keeps following the |
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law-of-averages around, like the shark in JAWS.
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:50 PM
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16. Ridge, as former head of "Homeland Security" and the puppet |
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of Chaney's and Bush's color coded fear system has a good chance in my opinion.he is owed something for his efforts involving scaring the public out of voting for Senator Kerry in 2004. I can envision the ticket now, McCain tough on our enemies abroad and Ridge protecting us from our enemies on the home front.
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:56 PM
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17. Hi, wisteria. -- Yes, Ridge could be frighteningly plausible. |
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But am curious -- do you think McCain would roll the dice on Ridge and risk repelling the fundies?
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