Why no push for an old, old man to pick a VP with foreign policy or national security experience?

[Skwmom]

McCain is an old, old, (almost a quarter of a century old) man - yet when the media and talking heads discuss his potential VP there is NO push for McCain to pick a VP who has foreign policy or national security experience.

Why is that? Could it be b/c they are desperate for Obama to pick a WASHINGTON INSIDER so they can they claim he is just another politician, and "Change You Can Believe In" is nothing more than a campaign slogan.

CNN is discussing its upcoming show - Obama and McCain Revealed. They portray Obama as your typical,shrewd politician while singing the praises of the War Hero John McCain (hmmm... wonder if John McCain revealed will even discuss his temper, the fact that he graduated in the BOTTOM of his class, or that instead of saying Team McCain you should just say Team Lobbyists).

If Obama picks a Washington Insider, it will feed the "he is inexperienced and just another politician" meme they are trying to sell to the public.

Again, why no push for the old, old, old man (he's almost a quarter of a century old) to pick a VP with foreign policy or national security experience?

I think a ticket that says "Now that's change I can believe in" is the way to go. Kerry bowed to the VP pressure, I hope Obama does not.

[monmouth]

1. So, is this your way of saying Biden would be a poor choice?....n/t

[Skwmom]

3. Well the media and talking heads are in overdrive pushing Obama to pick

a Washington Insider. If it was me, I'd think....hmmmm...wonder why they are so DESPERATE for me to pick a Washington Insider?

Yeah, I do think a Washington Insider would seriously damage the change message, and once that occurs the focus is on experience. Now Obama can argue experience vs judgment but NOT if his VP demonstrated that same bad judgment. Plus, it allows McCain, the maverick, to argue that he is the real change.

Kerry bowed to pressure, I hope Team Obama doesn't do the same.

If McCain picks a VP with no national security or foreign policy experience, how is a man of that age going to effectively argue fp, ns experience? At a minimum, it severely damages that argument. And if McCain picks a Washington Insider, he's going to pick another person with bad judgment, who voted for the worse debacle in U.S. history. So I don't think that ticket is a winner either.

I think the dumbest thing Obama could do would be to pick a Washington insider (and the corporate media, Clinton backers, and other talking heads pushing him to do just has only strengthened this belief).

[KittyWampus]

13. no, the mediawhores have now received their talking points from Rove. If the buzz was for Kaine

we'd here how inexperienced and unaccomplished Kaine is.

[Skwmom]

14. So how experienced and accomplished is old Man McCain's VP pick going to be?

Wow, look at what all that Washington experience has done for this country. The job they have done is simply amazing.

[MrModerate]

2. Actually, Edwards looked like an excellent choice at the time.

He wasn't used very effectively and didn't perform up to expectations, but regardless of the process seemed like a pretty good bet.

[Skwmom]

4. Sorry, but I disagree. I knew when Kerry picked Edwards that it would

be used to negatively define Kerry and would make it a difficult race (too many people viewed Edwards as a phony). He should have picked Clark and he'd be sitting in the Whitehouse today. Of course, since Clinton was to run in 2008, a strong ticket isn't what many were pushing for.

[MrModerate]

5. I've always been interested in Clark . . .

Why do you think the Obama camp has cut him dead this year?

[Skwmom]

6. Clark is in bed with the Clintons and the Clintons are already focused on 2012.

Clark said the other day that you can't buy military support (seeming to infer that Obama was trying to do just that). This from the man who supported the woman who voted for the war to further her political career and who joked about being under sniper fire (when many in the military die by sniper fire), and who pushed for health insurance for reservists so she could trot them out during the primary to show she supported the troops (hmmm... why isn't that trying to buy their support).

Clark as been a HUGE disappointment.

[Clark2008]

7. Disappointment?

He was one of the first Clinton supporters who told her it was over... give it up... months before she did.

Then, he immediately started representing Obama.

No, the disappointment is with Obama, in my mind. He's cut off the left's foremost expert on military leadership and foreign policy because the media acted like temper-tamper-throwing toddlers over a TRUTHFUL comment Clark made a month ago regarding McCain's judgment and abilities.

I'm still hanging onto the Obama campaign and this board by a thread, as a result of their piss-poor treatment of this intelligent man. They have one saving grace left before I bolt to the Green Party and put myself on hiatus from this board until after the November elections. If they're doing as Clemons from Huffington Post suggested and cutting Clark loose, then I'm leaving the party, temporarily, until they get their heads out of their asses.

[MrModerate]

8. As I hold McCain in nothing but contempt, I didn't find Clark's remark . . .

Particularly objectionable. But then I'm not a professional clown like those in the MSM, desperate for the next laugh or gasp of outrage from my audience.

I thought the remark was right on, taking McCain down a peg from his walks-on-water-because-he's-been-tortured perch. If that's the measure of a man, then the inmates of Guantanamo Bay will all be running for president in 2032.

[Skwmom]

11. Clark could have easily made a very valid point without bringing up the POW angle.

Because he is military, I was stunned that he made such a mistake. Valid argument but he killed it with the POW reference.

[Skwmom]

10. You know, we were told in 2004 how terrible Kerry treated Clark, which made a lot of

Clark supporters angry with Kerry. So, I'm not sure how much faith I put in this story about Obama's supposed treatment of Clark.

Clark inferring Obama is trying to buy the military DOES NOT help anyone but Clinton 2012.

[XemaSab]

There were speculations that the Clintons pushed Clark to run in '04

to steal thunder away from Howard Dean.

I don't know the facts of the matter; I'm just repeating the speculation.

[Skwmom]

20. I came to believe that they wanted Clark to run in 04 to kick Dean out of the race but

they didn't want him to win b/c they planned on a Clinton/Clark ticket in 08 (or at a minimum they wanted him out in front for her on national security b/c they knew a woman candidate would be tough).

[XemaSab]

22. I hate to believe it

but I think there's BAD BLOOD between the Clintons and Dean... bad enough that they would do something like that. :(

[Debi]

23. And looking at his FEC reports might just fuel that speculation n/t

[DFLforever]

18. I've read there is little trust between Obama camp and Clark

e.g., yesterday on Boomantribune.com

But I have no idea what the background story is.

[Skwmom]

24. I'd place money on Bill Clinton fueling the division. That man is JR Ewing on steroids -

it's just one big manipulation after another.

[yy4me]

9. McSame already knows who he will choose and I bet he did

not do the choosing. The repub party chose the man they want as back up because of the rigors of the office. McSame will not make it through 4 years, I think Romney(our former Massachusetts govern-not, weren't we lucky) is waiting in the wings, just practicing his pearly white smile, trying to find just the right element of appreciation and surprise.
Heaven help us!

[Skwmom]

12. And what foreign policy or national security expertise does Romney have?

[yy4me]

15. zilch! n/t

[quantass]

16. Is it "quarter of a century" or "THREE-QUARTERS of a century"...Maybe all these years i've been

getting my math wrong..someone correct me..i am confused. :shrug:

[Skwmom]

21. DUH. Three quarters of a century and believe it or not I'm really good in math!

Oh well, we all have our duh moments.

[Barack_America]

17. Limbaugh: "Please pick Biden", VA Republicans: "Kaine would be a poor choice"...

Hmmmmmm

:think:

[DFLforever]

19. The Repukes want no Virginian anywhere near the Dem ticket

Aug 10 Face the Nation, Rove really cut into Kaine, prompting Kaine's response a week later on MTP.