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StuffyJones Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:10 PM
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An Obama loss would mean a defeat for civil rights
I think the media has to get this idea. Obama is 100 times the candidate McCain is.

Obama is smarter, self-made, better looking, gives better speeches, has policies favored by the public, is law professor, has a family, no major scandals, he has a great organization, superior funding, better party ID for him/Dems, more enthusiasm behind him, far more donors, far more volunteers.

Obama is as close to a perfect candidate as any of us have seen. There is no way this election should be close.

The only thing "holding back" Obama is his skin color. He has so many advantages, if he loses (barring unforeseen circumstances), it is a repudiation of the civil rights movement. What it would say is that, NO black person can get elected, regardless of merit.

Now, I'm optimistic. I think our country is still racist, but I don't we're THAT racist. I think our country will have more than just a great President to celebrate the night of Nov 5. ...But god help this country if he loses, our country deserves Obama.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:12 PM
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1. Ummm....NO. NT
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:12 PM
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2. It's all about attitude.......
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:13 PM
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3. I'm sorry, but that's a very bad argument.
Do you really want to frame a vote for Obama as a sort of affirmative action? Do you really think that's a good idea?
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StuffyJones Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:41 PM
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9. He's right not to discuss race, but it's the elephant in the room
This isn't Gore or Kerry or any other Dem candidate. He doesn't have really any negatives. He's tall, charismatic, has the issues, is a family man, doesn't make gaffes, is great speaker, has the finances, has the volunteers, has the issues, has the party ID.

Look at it this way, what does McCain have on him? Experience and military service. That's it. And, McCain has all sorts of problems with his candidacy: he's flipped on so many issues, he's backing an unpopular war, he's associated with the most poorly viewed President of our time, he has scandal in his past, he's gaffe prone, he's not bright, he's a poor public speaker, he's short, he's very old, he has no economic policy....


While I agree that Obama shouldn't talk race (that's a sure loser) the media needs to be brought to account.

This shouldn't be close. And it has nothing to do with how Obama's run his campaign. He couldn't have run it better all things considered to this point.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:14 PM
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4. Don't EVEN go there. A candidate can lose for A LOT of reasons -nt
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StuffyJones Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:32 PM
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7. Take out skin color and this wouldn't be a contest nt
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:40 PM
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8. Good try. He's running *better* than the WHITE nominees of recent history
Don't make it a black/white issue.
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StuffyJones Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:09 PM
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11. While I'm glad that's true, he's a far better candidate running in a great environment
Now, it could be bad polling, but he ought to be blowing out McCain. That's the issue that concerns me. And yeah I know concern is like a dirty word here, but it is discouraging.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:17 PM
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5. That is NOT the message you want to send.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:25 PM
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6. Sadly, so would a win.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:43 PM
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10. So, what do you call Hillary's loss? n/t
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cyndensco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 06:21 PM
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12. I agree an Obama loss would mean a defeat for civil rights
but for different reasons. If a republican gets in and replaces just one of the left-leaning Supreme Court Justices, many of our rights will be forfeited. I shudder to think what will happen to ALL of us.
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