Is Berger still being investigated (freeper attacks me in print)

[carrowsboy]

Berger still being investigated, despite letters claiming otherwise

To the editor:

Deceive, distort, obfuscate, recite the party line. It's good to have Mr. Brandon Harlow back. On Aug. 17, he states that my response to Mr. Charles Thompson regarding Sandy Berger was not correct and cites a July 30 article in the Wall Street Journal to support his case. By the way, the article was on page 6, not page 12, as he wrote. I did find this article as I researched a response to Mr. Thompson, but since it did not deal with the subject at hand, I did not consider it relevant.

Mr. Thompson quotes this article to say that Berger had been completely exonerated for removing top secret papers from the National Archives.

That is not what it says. The article deals with Berger being cleared from withholding these materials from the 9/11 Commission. It does not say he has been cleared of removing papers. In fact, the article states "officials are still looking into whether some of the materials removed by Berger (which is against the law) have been destroyed (by Berger)." The article goes on to say Berger was observed removing papers (against the law). Not only that, Berger admits he did it.

But, it was a nice try anyway by Mr. Harlow. By the way, some months ago he used this space to talk of senior citizens existing on cat food. I suggested that he contact The Progress-Index as an intermediary and have the newspaper verify all of the people he knew existing on cat food and I would make sure they never ate cat food again, by providing proper food. The newspaper was never provided a list. What's up with that?

Edward Nugent

Matoaca


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I'm going to write another letter basically saying how I ignore hsi crazing ramblings. In the past he called me a "good buddy of saddam."

[LTR]

1. Edward Nugent?

Ted Nugent??

Well wang dang sweet poontang!

[still_one]

2. Berger Cleared of Withholding Material from 9/11 Commission

By Scot J. Paltrow
The Wall Street Journal

Friday 30 July 2004

Officials looking into the removal of classified documents from the National Archives by former Clinton National Security Adviser Samuel Berger say no original materials are missing and nothing Mr. Berger reviewed was withheld from the commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

[carrowsboy]

3. but...

Nuggent read this article and says that Berger is still being investigated.

[still_one]

4. ask him for a link

[LynnTheDem]

6. He was "cleared of all wrong-doing"

These freepers sure stay out of the loop, don't they. WAAAAY out of the loop.

Tell him to google "berger cleard of all wrong doing".

[AmandaRuth]

5. you might have to check around, but at the same

time this Berger thing was going on, there was a story about some repug congressperson, or senator, who, after getting out of a national security meeting, immediately repeated some classified details to an administration media winger shill. I remember the board was commenting on the difference of outrage for basically the same thing. I can't remember the specific details, perhaps someone else can.

[MisterGamut]

8. Shelby

And he was found responsible BUT no charges were filed.

[AmandaRuth]

11. doesn't it just pay to be

rethug sometime.....

[MisterGamut]

7. Take this for what it's worth

http://www.lt-smash.us/archives/003111.html

It reads as follows:

THE WALL STREET JOURNAL is reporting today that Sandy Berger has been cleared of any suspicion of withholding documents from the 9/11 Commission. (subscription required)

Archives spokeswoman Susan Cooper said officials there "are confident that there aren't any original documents missing in relation to this case." She said in most cases, Mr. Berger was given photocopies to review, and that in any event officials have accounted for all originals to which he had access.

This would appear to lay to rest any theories that Berger was attempting to hide potentially embarrassing information from the commission, which released its final report last week.

An investigation into Berger’s improper handling of highly classified material, including copies of the Millennium plot after-action report, remains open.

Mr. Berger's lawyer has said his client returned all of the photocopies after he was questioned about missing items by archives staff. But officials have said they are still looking into whether some of the photocopies may have been destroyed. It is illegal to remove classified material in any form from the archives.

No charges have yet been filed.

Now, in my opinion, if some other media source would follow up on this, it would be very very helpful. I have to wonder though, why Berger himself has not been doing the Sunday show circuit to jubilantly herald his innocence.

[librechik]

9. they would merely pair him with some Nazi attack dog

who would make the exoneration seem as ambiguous as possible, and reiterate the original charges multiple times and scoffing (picturing Hannity...)

no. not now.

[sandnsea]

10. "top secret" papers

I don't think he was ever accused of removing "top secret" papers, classified papers. I think the charge was always that he'd made copies and gotten the copies mixed up with his own papers. The party line is the Republican party line that intentionally distorted the situation from the beginning.

[MisterGamut]

12. His notes

The only thing he intentionally and knowingly took was his own notes - which was against policy, but not a criminal offense. He inadvertantly also took copies and returned them all when he was asked for them back. They initially told him that he still had some papers, so he assumed he must have thrown them away; but on further investigation, they realized that he did not have these other copies.

I am pretty sure that it was his notes that they say he was putting in his pants and shirt (pockets - they always left that word out.)

If you check the Fox story from the initial press conference, it says that he also stuffed papers in his socks. The Washington Times and AP stories did not mention socks. Somehow, socks became the meme.

[carrowsboy]

13. thanks

I'll include this in my response.

[liveoaktx]

14. Olbermann- Video Clip

Sandy Berger cleared

[carrowsboy]

17. oh well

I'm on a Mac and can''t view it.

[Stephanie]

15. God that Nancy picture is hilarious!

Is that real?

[carrowsboy]

16. no, lol

It is her head on Sharon Stone's body from Basic Instinct!

[carrowsboy]

18. MY RESPONSE!

Deceive, distort, obfuscate, recite the party line? Why Mr. Nugent, it would appear as though you suffer a rather obscene case of projective identification.

I'm also beginning to suspect that Mr. Nugent has developed a rather bizarre fixation on me. Hmmmm, could it be jealousy, misplaced anger from an unhappy childhood, miserable home life, perhaps trolling for a date? One can never be too sure of those issues held deeply in the hearts of the certifiably insane. Truth be told, I had started to ignore his rather inane ramblings after he accused me of being a "friend" to Saddam Hussein. Really now, you just cannot get more preposterous than that. Besides I am far too busy engaging in my weekly Friday night coffee klatsch at the Joe Muggs with Osama, Fidel and Idi Amin! In regards to the senior citizens and cat food issue, I never responded because I believed Darnell Law summed it up best. In her response to Mr. Nugent's request for a list of the elderly to feed, she asked why not do the "christian" thing and become pro-active in calling the local shelters to see what aid could be offered. Apparently Mr. Nugent, being a so-called christian, believed this not to be the will of the Lord and chose instead to obsess over me for an additional six months. I can understand how my charming personality and knack for humorous wit could warrant this type of attention, but nonetheless, the Central Virginia Food Bank is always looking for assistance. Their main number is 804-521-2500 and they are located at 1415 Rhoadmiller Street in Richmond. It may even enlighten Mr. Nugent to learn that they have distributed over 550,000 pounds of food this year with roughly 15% of that amount going to the elderly who struggle to survive on limited incomes. The ball is now in Mr. Nugent's court. Will he uphold his promise to feed all of the hungry as he has promised or will he be called on his transparent arguement?

Finally, a huge bravo to Mr. Nugent for his accelerated vocabulary. Nice to see he has graduated from silly, make-believe words like "liberal crappola" to admirable, cultivated vernacular such as "obfuscate." Hey, that is more than our President can do!