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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:07 PM
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Chris Matthews talking about a Democratic Party Civil War
Unbelievable. The real kicker was that he described the people in Denver as being from 2 competing camps: Hillary supporters who want Hillary nominated and Hillary supporters who are backing Obama. Stupid me, I could have swore that Obama had some supporters in Denver. :crazy:

Chuck Todd is lecturing Chris Matthews that this conflict is something he thinks the media is hyping up. Get em Todd!
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GrizzlyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:08 PM
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1. Those people standing behind him with Hillary signs are not Dems
They are part of a massive infiltration of the GOP psy-op team this week in Denver.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:09 PM
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2. its not one or the othe, it is both
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:10 PM
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6. I just posted a thread about this! That's exactly what I think! -nt
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:10 PM
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3. I thought about watching Hardball
but I turned it on and got pissed at the huge Hillary/McCain banners. The Hillary signs are nice, but these were specifically Hillary/McCain people (or, maybe they were really GOP people, lol). I'm sure MSNBC found them to get the prime spot behind Chris Matthews. Sorry, Keith. I'm afraid it might be c span all night long.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:10 PM
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4. I'm really tired about reading what Chris Matthews said.
I really don't give a shit, and if I did, I'd be watching.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:10 PM
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5. CSPAN, people. Please!?
No pundits, no bullshit. Just pure, unadulterated live coverage of the Convention.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:15 PM
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7. Thank you.
If I see another "He/she said about Obama/Clinton/McCain/ on Cable Teevee" I'm gonna nuke that thread with my hide a thread button. Feeding the Corporate wolf is not healthy for the health of our party.

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:17 PM
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8. Todd blamed Hillary for some of this
for stringing them along long after she was out of it. Intimating that she had a 50-50 chance after Wisconsin, when she only had a 10% chance.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:30 PM
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10. Bullshit.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:36 PM
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13. Proving he's another of MSNBC's Clinton-haters.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:43 PM
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14. His comment was taking out of context
What he said was accurate. Some of the people who voted for Hillary LATE in the primary season were led to believe that it was a toss-up race at that point whereas the people doing the delegate math knew that while Hillary definitely had a chance, it wasn't a toss-up race anymore and that Obama was leading the race. Chuck Todd was the numbers cruncher for MSNBC, so obviously his comment was focused on that aspect.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 05:41 PM
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22. I don't understand the aversion to reality
History can be revised, but recent events are clear as day.
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 05:44 PM
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24. He said that she lost in Feb, used the popular vote measure that was inaccurate and never to count.,
She did a disservice by getting her supporters to think she had a chance. We know the divisive means used to stoke FL and MI.

Matthews said the issie of whether Obama won fair and square is something she needs to convey. In a democracy, wining by one is winning.
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:57 PM
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17. Todd is right. n/t
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 05:39 PM
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21. Of course he was
Fucking spot on he was.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:29 PM
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9. In his dreams. He's a lying, sexist shit. IGNORE. nt
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:33 PM
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11. Who woulda thought/knew Chris Matthews was a slimey snake pretending to be Normal??
He has sold his Name for 23 Dracmas...pitiful and disturbing at once

Get the HOOK
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:36 PM
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12. There's not any "Democratic Civil War" - the vast, vast majority of HRC supporters wholeheartedly
support the Democratic nominee now. Senator Clinton herself has issued many statements of support and unity, and just today ridiculed the silly McCain ad. Talk of a "Civil War" in our party is much overblown, methinks.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:45 PM
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15. Agreed. Tweety trying to force this talking point makes him look pathetic.
Dear God, please keep him out of the Senate if he decides to run in 2010.
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:59 PM
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19. Well at least he did call the 3 women crazy
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 05:43 PM
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23. Yesterdays NYT poll of delegates was reassuring
There's only a few delegates (4%) who don't support Obama or oppose him. But they're sure to get a lot of press.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:56 PM
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16. And doing his damndest to start one! n/t.
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:57 PM
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18. This is why Chuck Todd is actually a good centrist host to have.
I wish MSNBC would give him his own show and get rid of David Gregory. Dan Abrams was actually okay as a centrist kinda host although he did tend to be fluffy so I really think David Gregory was the one who deserved to get axed.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 05:19 PM
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20. Speaking of Gregory
He's playing an interview he had with an Obama advisor and is only focusing on race and Rev. Wright. :crazy:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 05:44 PM
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25. I love Todd, because he's all about numbers.
Numbers don't lie. I go through this on a daily basis with my job - people refuse to believe/listen to me (their way is the right way) when I tell them what needs to be done. All I do is math to figure these things out, and I know that numbers don't lie.
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 06:53 PM
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26. Yes, I genuinely believe that he's probably an anomaly in that he's actually objective. A rarity in
this day and age of partisan media, I know. Which is why they need to give him more time to counterbalance the crappy journalism that's still all-too-pervasive.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 07:01 PM
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27. He gets crapped on for "being partisan"
but I've never noticed him to be so. He's always about numbers.

Numbers are what I understand.

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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 07:09 PM
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28. He's also personally likable. He doesn't do that shouting thing and he's courteous.
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