Tweety: "Jack was killed by a communist".

[Condem]

I beg to differ. President Kennedy was killed by his own country.

[Archae]

1. Bullshit.

All the credible evidence, (as opposed to rumors and hearsay,) say Oswald was the ONLY shooter.

And he was a far-FAR-left communist.

[K Gardner]

2. *sputtersnort*

[WeDidIt]

3. DING DING DING DING DING

Yes, the Warren Commission was flawed, but the conclusions were still the correct ones.

[Name removed]

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[Hepburn]

32. You got that one....

...reading the Warren Report when it came out convinced me that our government most certainly does lie to us. I have found NO reason thereafter to change that opinion. In fact, POS like Richard Nixon and George Bush have only served to re-inforce the same.

[Condem]

34. Hepburn. You hit the nail. Thank you.

[Archae]

23. You got it.

Even the "Mythbusters" were able to show that it is very likely all three shots came from the Texas school-book depository.

Oswald hated Kennedy, since Kennedy was making overtures towards conservatives, and was letting people like the CIA try to overthrow Castro, who Oswald idolized.

Best book based on REAL evidence in this case?
"Case Closed."

[Condem]

26. How old are you, Archae?

[apocalypsehow]

39. What does the poster's age have to do with his (correct) conclusions?

Sounds like someone's run out of facts, so now they're going the personal attack route. That someone would be you.

[Condem]

45. Gee, apocalypse

21, yet. What do you base your facts on? The Warren Commission? How's the Iraq War working out for ya? Grow the fuck up.

[apocalypsehow]

48. Oswald acted alone and with malice aforethought when he assassinated President Kennedy.

It really is that simple. All the feeble personal attacks in the world will not change those ironclad facts.

Thank you and good evening.

[Condem]

49. Yes, indeed

Putin's a great guy.

[villager]

27. well, if Gerald Posner says it, it must be true! Never mind Oswald's uncle was in the mob,

or that one of Jack Ruby's strippers warned -- in advance! -- that they were going to shoot the President.

Or even that a second Oswald was seen in Mexico City, etc. etc.

Let's just ignore those tip-of-the-iceberg things and believe what Gerald Ford and J. Edgar Hoover tell us!

Because, you know, we're discerning people who know our government would never ever lie to us!

[liberal1973]

36. lol..Mythbusters?

Look it's a fun show but...

[IndianaGreen]

28. Yep, and Saddam was involved on 9-11

and Saddam sent his WMDs to Syria and Iran.

:sarcasm:

[RagAss]

4. Who lived in the USSR for a period of time before returning here.

[IndianaGreen]

21. The only reason the Soviets granted him assylum was because he was suicidal

The Soviets never trusted Oswald, and when he decided to return to US, they were glad to be rid of him.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

60. Oswald was a CIA plant and the Soviets knew it.

There was a reason the KGB assigned him to a factory job in the middle of nowhere.

[montanacowboy]

6. Bullshit

his own country had their hands in it up to their necks

in our lifetimes the truth will not be known

[K Gardner]

I believe *some* know the truth. "We" likely never will.

[fascisthunter]

12. BS... all the evidence says he was killed by more than one man

and I bet it was the right leaning in this country who did it who used a patsy like Oswald. Magic Bullet theory my ass...

[New Dawn]

47. The CIA was mad that he didn't provide their Cuban invasion with air support

They got their revenge. Oswald was the fall guy.

[WinkyDink]

13. Sure. That's why Bobby didn't want any real investigation: it might uncover a "Communist".

[IndianaGreen]

22. Oswald was never a communist. His bullshit rants were a ploy

Oswald knew Jack Ruby, and Ruby had connections to the Mafia.

Miami Cubans wanted JFK dead because they accused him of betraying the Bay of Pigs invaders.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

62. Oswald was a CIA plant and anyone who thinks otherwise

is only fooling themselves.

[liberal1973]

33. I disagree

I disagree that Oswald was a far left communist. I don't buy that at all.

[New Dawn]

35. Anyone who believes that BS needs to watch this documentary:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9137354720737304741

In addition, Oswald was NEVER a member of the Communist Party USA. And he did not just magically learn Russian language on his own. He was at a military facility where he was taught Russian to be a spy. Even the USSR knew he was a spy.

[stillcool]

38. Wow. Did you type that..

with a straight face?

[truebrit71]

50. That is pure, unadulterated horsehit...Every single word.

...Do your research and come back when you know what the fuck you are talking about...

[krawhitham]

51. Yeah it was one magic ricocheting bullet

[whistle]

5. Only a Red could have used the "Magic Bullet" so Tweety must have it right

:wtf: It took three teams of military sharp shooters

[elfin]

7. Am watching Tweety Free PBS nt

[stray cat]

9. He was murdered by an individual not a country not a communist

[Condem]

18. Sorry,dmordue

The CIA was all over it.

[valerief]

10. Like Communist China, our BFF? nt

[SoxFan]

11. Not now, guys. Not tonight.

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

14. Jack was killed by fascists. So was Bobby

So was the Constitution. And everyone at the World Trade Center.

[nebenaube]

42. seconded.... nt

[AnnieBW]

15. Was killed by the Mob

I'm still convinced that it was a Mafia hit because JFK was going after the Mafia.

[IndianaGreen]

16. Lee Harvey Oswald was not a communist, he was a troubled man and a patsy

The picture of Oswald leaving the Cuban Embassy in Mexico City turned out to be that of another man.

[Johonny]

31. well he did goto USSR

So I guess he's a communist. I support the f'ing crazy rather than communist, but I guess Tweety assumes anyone in the middle of the cold war that leaves the US for the USSR is a communist.

[IndianaGreen]

37. Granted assylum because he was suicidal. He was never a Communist.

I agree with you that Tweety is buying the old commie story about Oswald. This is better than talking about the fact that Oswald was an FBI informant, and that was what the FBI was trying to cover up.

[New Dawn]

44. He was a US spy.

That is why he was sent to the USSR.

[Drunken Irishman]

17. Kennedy was killed by Doy Der Duh.

[RepublicanElephant]

19. warren commission would've found saddam responsible for 9-11.

:banghead:

[fascisthunter]

20. Kennedy Was Shot by Powerful Fascist Interests in this Country.... it was a Coup

and the right wing knows it.... bunch of sick fucker cowards.

[IndianaGreen]

25. Combination of Miami Cubans, CIA rogue elements, and Mafia

Where were Howard Hunt and Poppy Bush on the day JFK was assassinated? Hunt never talked about it, and Poppy claimed he didn't recall.

[fascisthunter]

29. Exactly.... People Better Get Their Heads Out from their Asses

the wealthy elite have been waging war on Americans for years... when a leader of the people speaks, he/she is killed by those same interests. Populists are despised, ridiculed, attacked and spied upon in this country. Populists are considered "left wing". This country is controlled by fascists, and they have plenty of money...

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

46. The military-industrial complex has been on the warpath

against ordinary Americans and their representatives (JFK, RFK, MLK et al) ever since Eisenhower was courageous enough to shine the light on them. They couldn't touch Ike but they have waging all out war ever since and it escalated when Reagan the Idiot was elected. It became scorched earth when Chimpoleon and DicKKK were installed.

[Condem]

40. Did you read Brothers, Indiana?

[EFerrari]

57. I did. It was amazing. And as well footnoted. n/t

[Life Long Dem]

24. Convention

http://gallery1.demconvention.com/

You need (on DNC site) Windows Silverlight.

[Condem]

30. I'm still in shock that ANYBODY thinks Oswald acted alone.

What a crock of absolute shit.

[apocalypsehow]

41. He's right. n/t.

[Starry Messenger]

43. We're going to do this today?

Really?

MPK

[Archae]

52. Looks to me...

Like too many people here have cemented their view on JFK's killing, thinking that Oliver Stone(d)'s movie was a documentary.
Stone got two facts right in that movie.

1. Kennedy was killed.

2. Garrison put (forgot his name) on trial for the killing.

The rest of that movie is pure fiction.

Let me try a "thought experiment" here.

Let's go back to 1976.
Gerald Ford has missed two assasination attempts.
Jimmy Carter is running against him.

If I said to any of you this:

"Some guy who is a certifiable crazy, in fact he's been in and out of mental hospitals for years, decides to 'impress' the actress he's got a sick obsession with by trying to kill the president. He goes to a pawn shop, buys a cheap handgun and actually shoots and comes close to killing the president."

Back in 1976, if I said that to any of you, you'd tell me I was full of it.

Yet in 1981 John Hinckley did just that.

So is it SOOOOOO implausible, that a loser who thought he was superior to everyone, and had a marksman rating in the US Marines, who was convinced Kennedy was evil, could take a rifle WITH SCOPE up to a good sniper's nest, overlooking a motorcade route, and blow the brains out of Kennedy?

BTW, I talked to my BIL, who was a medic in Vietnam.
He told me flat out he found copper-jacketed bullets from N Vietnamese snipers that had gone through more than one US trooper, while they weren't "pristine," which the "magic bullet" is not, they did resemble that bullet.
And he saw first hand a guy shot by a sniper in the back of the head, causing the bullet to explode in the victim's head, blowing the victim BACKWARDS.

It has been almost 45 years now.
Lots of accusations, books, and fiction movies like "JFK."

But TO DATE, not one damn thing from a credible source, to point to the Mafia, the CIA, the Illuminati, etc, as JFK's killer.

'Nuff said.

[Awsi Dooger]

54. It's a futile argument around here

When I joined DU in fall 2002 the first astonishment was so many undeniably smart people could believe the JFK conspiracy crap, many of them denying Oswald was involved at all.

I give up. It's incredible that posters think adding dozens of variables makes their version more likely to be true instead of exponentially less likely.

Olbermann had Gerald Posner on his show last week. He's one of the best sources to knock down the JFK conspiracy garbage.

[EFerrari]

56. It's futile because it's wrong and people around here have facts in hand.

Conspiracy crap. Right, like the "Bush lied us into war" was conspiracy crap until, lol, the evidence shows up in the National Archives.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

59. There's only one, fatal problem with Posner's theory

And that is that the Zapruder film shows without any rebuttable presumption that JFK was shot through the right temple/forehead, jerking violently to his left rear, his brains splattered on the trunk lid BEHIND HIM and to his left. No one has ever offered anything to counterbalance this evidence that comports with common sense or Newtonian physics. The only possible explanation is that JFK was killed by a frontal shot from the grassy knoll.

Posner has no credibility on the JfK assassination, though he is no fool on other subjects.

[EFerrari]

55. You might usefully read the findings of the Church Committee and

the House Select Committee on Assassinations. They both disagree with you and they made their findings before Stone made his movie.

[TexasObserver]

53. The Dulles Brothers and J. Edgar Hoover were commies?!

Dayam!!

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

61. JFK was not killed by Communists

he was killed by the fascists President Eisenhower shone the light on in his farewell address. The military-industrial complex, in association with the Mob that RFK had declared war upon and the fascist anti=Castro assholes who had been making a fortune in Batista's wholly corrupt Cuba.

[TexasObserver]

64. I didn't say he was, did I?

Do you even know who the Dulles Brothers and J. Edgar Hoover were?

The mafia and the Cuban expats didn't have the ability to pull off an assassination. Dulles and Hoover did.

[CreekDog]

58. and he was having such a good night

oh well, he is the Sofia Petrillo of Cable News. :eyes:

[lamp_shade]

63. Chris Matthews.

[yardwork]

65. How dare that buffoon refer to President Kennedy as Jack. He has no right.