THE TEST for Hillary: Can she cut-down McCain the way she did Obama

[Sensitivity]

I am not interested in how motivational or inspiring her speach is. I will cheer her if she passes this test.

The McCain political hit men have found the Obama’s weak spot and he is bleeding. Their sharpest blade has been Hillary Clinton’s insidious attacks during the Primaries which make Obama out to be the “empty suit,” “ just a speach,” and as telegraphed by her girl Geraldine , really a “lucky” affirmiative action pretender to the Presidency.

So Hillary knows how to do negative campaigning. So let us see her go after Republican McCain with some of the same relish with which she went after Democrat Obama during the primaries.

The fact that the McCain campaign has so embraced her in their SMEAR Ads gives her credibility to tell the world the TRUTH ABOUT JOHN MCCAIN

She may look two-faced after all the McCain love during the primaries – but that’s OK, she is a big girl.

If she does not find the way to make McCain distastefull and unpalatable, I for one will conclude that she is looking to 2012 and wants Obama to loose.

Folks, Barack’s favorables will go up after the DNC Convention/Lovefest. But that was never in doubt.

The question is whether McCain’s numbers will go down. THAT SHOULD BE BILL AND HILLARY’S JOB.

[wyldwolf]

1. ha ha. You would task the Clintons in making McCain's numbers go down?

Sorry, it that's anyone's job, it's Joe Biden's.

[geek tragedy]

3. It's the entire party's job to take down McCain.

That is, unless people want McCain to win.

Because if someone doesn't knock the old bastard down, he's going to win.

[wyldwolf]

6. tell that to Sensitivity

[Sensitivity]

60. All are equal, but some are more (much more) equal than others, in terms of MSM impact

[27inCali]

68. the Clintons have a lot of media clout

and were the ones who made the most effective attacks on our nominee.
no hard feelings, it was what they were supposed to do, it was a primary.

but now they need to de-program those attacks,
since we're talking about their very own attacks, they are the best to do this.

part of being the party's big dogs is taking on big responsibility to trouble-shoot anything and everything that comes along that might hurt the party.

I know they can do it.

[Sensitivity]

9. I agree: But few are as well positioned to do it as Hillary, his fav spokesperson.

[polmaven]

35. It isn't going to happen

by behaving like bratty children and obsessing over Hillary and Bill Clinton.

[Sensitivity]

49. "obsessing over Hillary and Bill Clinton" ?? It is they that demand prime slots! Let's see what for!

What we need now is the UNDERMINING OF JOHN MCCAIN.

Can they do it? If not what are they doing taking some of the most important prime-time speaking slots for the whole campaign season.

[polmaven]

53. Why is it that you don't TRUST

the Obama campaign to do what is right for the campaign? How many presidential campaigns have you run?

They know what they are doing. GROW UP!!!!!!

[Sensitivity]

56. So you think OBAMA asked for Hillary to launch those deadly attacks? Stop excusing Hill. Let her do

what she should for Obama, not what she wants to do for herself -- and we will thank her.

[polmaven]

61. Why should I even bother to go further?

You are, either deliberately or for some other reason being completely oblivious not only to what you are reading, but to what you are writing. Your hatred has overwhelmed your ability to be objective and to focus on the things that really matter. It will do neither of us any good to go further with this as long as you are so obsessed with hating.

[Sensitivity]

7. NO,NO. The task is to make McCAIN'S NUMBERS GO DOWN!

[wyldwolf]

8. You would task the Clintons in making McCain's numbers go down?

If that's anyone's job, it's Joe Biden's.

[Sensitivity]

12. It's EXPECTED from Biden. More EFFECTIVE from the Clintons.

[wyldwolf]

14. ah, right. Everyone has one...

[Sensitivity]

76. Clintons would deserve our gratitude if they sacrificed their McCain friendship for the nation

[Sensitivity]

65. Wow! Well Rachel Maddow and Michael Smerconish just said IT on MSNBC -- The TEST IS CLEAR

[sufrommich]

2. Rove sends you a fat wet kiss.

Thanks for playing!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

4. Ew!

[Joanne98]

5. I waiting for that too. I want a complete total smackdown.

[Sensitivity]

58. Go Hillary. Yes you can!

[Cha]

10. I just talked to a friend on the phone who I was thanking for

dropping by some vegatables from his garden last night..I asked him if they watched the Convention and he said yeah.."Teddy was inspiring! And Michelle's speech was great at introducing her family and I'll tell you one thing..Hillary better give a real unifying speech tonight not some lukewarm thing that's about herself."

And, he and his wife are former hillary supporters here in New York.

[Marrah_G]

11. The RNC thanks you for buying into all their propaganda

[Sensitivity]

17. You mean the theory that "cuting down the opposition helps you win" ??

[SeaLyons]

13. Oh man, you have taken the GOP bait hook, line and sinker.....

How in the hell is it Bill and Hillary's job to bring McCain's poll numbers down????

[dionysus]

15. uh, since mccain started using video of hillary bashing obama in his commercials?

:eyes:

[SeaLyons]

19. and when they start showing clips of Biden

trashing Obama, then I guess it will be his responsibility.....there is no logic. Obama won the nomination. Not the Clintons, not Biden. It is ultimately up to Obama to win the White House. Don't you have any faith he can do that? I do.

[dionysus]

23. i would posit that it is every high profile dem's job to take down mccain; biden, hillary, and bill

[SeaLyons]

28. Bill and Hillary and Joe ...

are all in the fight to beat McCain, as are all of us that support Obama. Ultimately, it will be Obama's responsibility to garner enough votes to win. I believe he will do that.

[emulatorloo]

31. it is up to EVERY DEMOCRAT out there to help Obama win the White House.

Senator Clinton will make a very good surrogate for Obama. She has already indicated she is pretty pissed about the McCain ads. I expect she will take up the theme tonight.

[Sensitivity]

52. Unfortunately, the grassroots organizing time is just about past. We did good. Not Strategy and

power plays by key leaders will shape the results.

[leftofcool]

16. Listening to all those Repuke news channels are ya?

[Sensitivity]

57. No. I managed the phones in 2000. I was fulltime in the Campaign in 2004. See it before.

[SoCalDem]

18. ...

[Sensitivity]

20. Perfect! As McCain's bossom buddy SHE IS PERFECT TO TESTIFY AGAINST HIM

[LostinVA]

24. She is not his bosom buddy -- but you know that already

There are also shots of Senator Obama looking cozy with McCain. I will not post them, because I believe in Unity, and do not have a raging case of ODS. GET OVER THE PRIMARIES AND EMBRACE UNITY -- like both Obama and Clinton have.

BOO.

[Marrah_G]

26. I hope you choke on all that irrational hate

Welcome to ignore.

[emilyg]

48. How can you function with all your hate?

[Sensitivity]

50. I have been a big fan of Bill and think Hillary can be a great campaigner?

[bunnies]

21. The QUESTION for Hillary: Does she want to?

:shrug:

[cindyw]

22. I tend to agree with you. Hillary should leave the selling of the Dem platform

to others and turn her fire to McCain.

[LostinVA]

25. "If she sinks, she's guilty, if she swims, she's guilty"

[sufrommich]

27. Yep.

:toast:

[Sensitivity]

34. If she really cuts down McCain, she would have proved her allegiance

[greguganus]

29. Hillary's purpose tonight will be to help bring unity to the party. n/t

[Sensitivity]

30. That was Teddy's job. Her job is to tell her PUMA supporters that McCain is Death and Destruction

She can try to praise Obama to the heavens, but will not look very credible.

[Qutzupalotl]

55. What better way to unify the party than to discourage protest votes for McCain?

[IEatRepublicans]

32. She can't play the hatchet lady....

Repubs would use that to rile up the base beyond belief. We need them demoralized this year... Secretly Repubs wanted her to win the primaries.

Her only job is to throw her full weight behind Obama, that's it.

[Qutzupalotl]

54. But she's not the nominee. They can't use her attack to rile up their base.

It wouldn't work. That's why people use surrogates.

[redstate_democrat]

33. I don't believe she has it in her. Perhaps that power play is a bit above her reach.

Maybe not. I never heard her say anything particularly damning about McCain.

[Beregond2]

36. The trouble is,

anything she says against McCain now will have no effect, after all the praise she gave him during her campaign. She will just look self-serving and hypocritical. Same thing with anything good she says about Obama, after all the trash talk she indulged in against him.

This is exactly why so many of us were so furious with her six months ago. It was clear then that the McCain campaign would use everything she was saying to their advantage, and they have, and will conitnue to do so. If she nows turns around and contradicts herself, they will use that too.

Further, we all said that by continuing her campaign long after it was lost, she was creating a large group of bitter, disaffected supporters who would create big problems at the convention and after. And so it has proven.

How anyone can still say she should have been the candidate after all these mistakes, after everything she has done to harm our chances in November, is completely beyond me. For the Republicans, she is the gift that keeps on giving.

She should NOT have been allowed to give a speech, and the roll call vote with her name in nomination is a disastrous mistake. The media are turning the convention into the Hillary Show, again, just as predicted.

I can't bring myuself to watch her tonight. Luckily, I have to work anyway.

[Sensitivity]

38. Even if by Slashing McCain Hillary looses credibility, THAT'S GOOD, since she is McCain's main

spokesperson in his Ads.

[Kokonoe]

37. The Clinton's have risked a lot of futures in their campaign

and should have the right to say anything, even if its only about themselves.

But a well placed finger wag from bill would bring the house down.;-)

[endthewar]

39. Cattle futures?

:rofl:

[Kokonoe]

44. I meant their political future

and the fate of soldiers lives overseas, or people facing a foreclose.:P

[endthewar]

46. I know, just couldn't resist

:patriot:

[oasis]

40. Those who ask Hillary to roll her sleeves up should get busy with rolling down her campaign debt.

:think:

[Sensitivity]

41. I Hillary passes the TEST tonight, she can go on holiday till Nov. while we use her in Ads.

[Ino]

43. So Hilliary's loyalty is bought? (nt)

[oasis]

51. Loyalty? Her dedication to the Democratic Party is unequaled . (nt)

[Sensitivity]

82. And a pretty high price.

[endthewar]

47. I wonder why people hesitate to pay off Mark Penn

:eyes:

[Sensitivity]

63. You are not serious, I hope? There is a word for what you are implying.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

42. Both Hillary and Bill have stated repeatedly that they are "good friends" with

McSame. I'm sorry but they have already done so much damage. I don't see how they can honestly "cut down" McSame because all of their words and actions would negate anything that they NOW say.

[emilyg]

45. Making McCain's numbers go down

is Obama's job.

[4themind]

62. I'm hoping hillary can help as well

and I think she has the intelligence and tenacity to do so tonight.

[Shakespeare]

59. From reports I've read, she's planning to kick McCain's ass tonight.

And that will be absolutely perfect. :thumbsup:

[Sensitivity]

64. That the WORD regarding the job Obama Team gave her. Will she deliver?

[goldcanyonaz]

66. Of course she will, it is NOT like anyone else is doing it. Hillary will deliver as always.

[sniffa]

67. This thread has brought out the Victims to

perform their daily Masochist rituals. It's just as tiresome and trite as it was months ago.

[robertpaulsen]

69. Another test: put "supporters" like these in their proper place.

Angry Clinton supporters toast McCain, roast Obama
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/26/clinton.backers/index.html

Anyone who would vote for McCain, or enable McCain by not voting for Obama in November, does not and never did support the ideals and values that Senator Clinton stands for. I don't expect to hear her say FUCK YOU, PUMAS! in her speech, but I hope that sentiment is clearly enunciated.

[indimuse]

70. Another UNITY POST!

F*cking UNREAL!

[sniffa]

73. Another Victim post

F*cking TYPICAL!

[Sensitivity]

75. Well I just heard several PUNDITS SAY SAME THING -- Except for Pat Buchanan

whose point was that she'd better not go after McCain since it would harm her Senate power with McCain in the Whitehouse.

[democracy1st]

71. i want to see her do if not then i will make a judgement

[Willo]

72. The right words from the Clintons

will make it harder for McCain, and the media to spin as freely as they have been.

The Clintons will have live, unedited opportunities to either slap McCain on the wrist or slam him upside a brick wall.

A slap on the wrist would sound something like "John McCain is offering the same failed policies as Bush. We don't need four more years of George W. Bush"

A slam upside the wall would sound more like Biden's kitchen table(s) reference.

I'm looking for them to make statements that would force McCain to have to stop running those ads or else he'd look ridiculous.

[senseandsensibility]

74. I'm not holding my breath

and I don't think others should either. But beyond her, who is going to attack McSame?

[barack the house]

77. They are working to divide us and Hillary HAS beat on McCain since the primary. Clip here->

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pUFuzaRdNU

[barack the house]

78. TURN OFF THE MSMS. cspan has genuine coverage via their site

[Sensitivity]

79. That's not a real attack -- like the ones targeted at Barack. Please be real.

[heaven or hell]

80. she is a backstabber

Obama should not let her stand behind him.



http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Multimedia/Player.aspx?guid=0bd5d820-7708-4cc7-a141-304e74a007ae

[Sensitivity]

81. Pat Buchanan finally said it: IF SHE REALLY WANTS OBAMA, SHE COULD GUT MCCAIN -- but she won't do it

[Sensitivity]

83. Did she really take the knife to McCain. Great speech, but she could not do it.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

84. Buh-bye. I've heard enough of your chickenshit Repuke horseshit.

[Sensitivity]

85. Brilliant, analysis. WOW.