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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:13 PM
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Man, where the hell was this Hillary back in January?
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 10:15 PM by Occam Bandage
I'd have voted for her in a heartbeat. That was an amazing speech. I'd say it rivals anything Obama's ever done. The only bad thing about this speech is that it was a glimpse of what might have been, if she'd only been herself just a tiny bit more...but whatever. Hillary gave the speech of her career, and tonight I'm damn proud to be a Democrat.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:15 PM
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1. When you search for fault in every action
You usually find it.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:15 PM
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2. Who's looking for fault?
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:17 PM
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3. During the primaries
Many Clinton haters saw what they wanted to see. Now they have seen the Clinton that us supporters have known from the start.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:26 PM
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6. Hillary was on tonight
But sorry It was never about her ......it was about the people who she had run her campaign and the people who would have been in her administration.....
That is part of the deal.....it is who you bring along with you.......and 8 years of Carville, Begala, MarkPenn, Lanny Davis Harold Ford, Anne Lewis...NO FRIGGIN THANKS.....
and she never gave a speech like this the whole primary season, this was the best since her concession speech.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:27 PM
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7. She brought it on herself. Tonight, she helped repair the damage she caused.
NT!

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:35 PM
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13. Yeah, that's more like it. I don't
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 10:38 PM by zidzi
have Stockholm Syndrome.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:37 PM
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You are graceless
nice gratitude.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:40 PM
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16. Nailed it.
:thumbsup:
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:51 PM
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23. Bitter. Party of one. nt
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:18 PM
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4. All the great Clinton family speeches are finished in the last hour.
They really are pressure players. They thrive on problems and drama because it spurs them to rise to the occasion.

Being the front-runner was the worst thing that ever happened to her... it's not the Clinton way.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:18 PM
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5. I agree that the speech may give some people buyer's remorse
because of the MSM and there constant attempts to pull Obama down. It's scary and I think we're all nervous. I think the road would have been almost just as hard though.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:27 PM
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8. No buyers remorse.......
But she did very well......

As I said it was not just about Hillary it was what came along with her....that is what the Presidency is about.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:31 PM
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9. She did great!
I still wouldn't have voted for her, based on various issues, but I think if she'd come out of the gate like this when she started campaigning, she may have won. And if she had won because she had campaigned well (as opposed to campaigning bitterly), I would have been OK with her getting the nom. It's a shame that whoever it was influencing her most caused her to take the low road, because she just proved to us tonight how good she really could be.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:32 PM
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10. She was there, you weren't paying attention.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:34 PM
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12. No, the other Hillary was there most of the time....
the one who mocked Obama and ran a nasty, negative campaign; not this uplifting person who spoke tonight.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:37 PM
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14. And the Obama campaign didn't run a nasty, negative campaign?
Yeah, ok.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:49 PM
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22. You are so bitter, you cannot accept a compliment about Hillary?
She would be disappointed in you. You need to learn something for her.

Were you in it for the cause or for her?
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:37 PM
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15. Just playing along with the Barack who mocked and derided her.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:33 PM
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11. She was great, but I'd still have voted for Obama and he will give
a equally great speech, I'm sure, on Thursday. Now I'm looking forward to Biden tomorrow.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:41 PM
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17. Sleeping with the enemy


:smoke:
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:44 PM
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18. She was too busy being savaged by MSNBC and others
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 10:45 PM by Awsi Dooger
That's all it was, savaged. I was doing 16 hour hospital shifts bedside with an ailing mother, no chance to follow politics hour by hour. Then a week or two later I'd watch tapes of Hardball and Countdown, maybe 5 or 6 shows back to back. It was so unbelievable I'd literally pace the house at 4 AM is disgust, amazed the nation wasn't outraged at the way Hillary was being treated. Matthews and particularly Olbermann would mock her with every syllable and facial expression.

I'll never get over it. Obama has my support and my vote but we nominated the lesser candidate.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:48 PM
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21. Now, see ...that's the kind of shit that I am not going to be putting up with......
and what you have just said sucks ass.

Lesser candidate is a real low blow.

Obama made Hillary the kind of speaker she became....just like Hillary helped Obama be a better candidate in a lot of ways.

But you breath stinks after having spoken those words on a night that should be about unity....not fucking deriding our Democratic nominee.

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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:46 PM
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19. If Hillary hadn't listened to Mark Penn she would have had my vote.
I was turned by the way he convinced her to conduct her campaign.

That wasn't the real Hillary. Tonight was.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:48 PM
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20. You are right. She probably listened to Bill or someone too much.
If she had been herself, like this, she would have won. I watched with my wife and oldest daughter and we were all very proud and developed great respect for her!!!
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:57 PM
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24. Like an AA woman delegate said on CNN: she was presidential.
This woman was in tears and so was I. What a candidate the party threw away, what a president we could have had!!!

My heart aches for the missed opportunity.
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