Where the hell was this john kerry in 2004!??!

[KingOfLostSouls]

holy cow. he's on fire, man. he would have crushed bush in 2004 with stuff like this.


the one thing that obama has seem to do has been to help give democrats their spines back.

[NRaleighLiberal]

1. He was being "handled" . Something that Obama CANNOT allow! NT

[blm]

49. He was being deliberately muted by the corpmedia who refused to broadcast his counterattacks.

Some of you really think he just BECAME this tough this year? He's the toughest Democrat in DC and has been for decades. No wuss dares to uncover IranContra, BCCI and CIA drugrunning even when the entire establishment is working to stop you and bring you down, including powerful Democrats.

The wusses are the Dems who appear successful but owe that image of success to the powerful elite whose asses they kissed as they agreed to protect the secrecy and privilege of the Bushes and their cronies. Yeah - THAT takes courage.

[rockymountaindem]

2. Being buried under piles of BS by the media

and weak campaign advice. This John Kerry was there all along for anybody that actually wanted to see it.

[DangerousRhythm]

16. That's a damned shame.

He was great tonight. I never got such a strong impression from him back in 2004.

[rockymountaindem]

17. Well, he's my favorite politician

so I've been following his appearances and writing for awhile. Not only can he lay it on the line, but he is smart as heck. We really lost out not putting him in the Oval Office.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. My thoughts exactly...

What might have been...

*sigh*

He's amazing tonight!

:woohoo: :woohoo:

[SteppingRazor]

4. The same place yesterday's Hillary Clinton was 10 months ago.

:silly:

[SharonRB]

5. I heard him speak in person a few times

and he was like this. Not enough people knew that, I guess.

[JI7]

8. yup, just like msm didn't show the whole thing this time

[sandnsea]

And people still don't appear to get it n/t

[blm]

28. Dan Rather admitted corpmedia needed to protect Bush back then for the favorable rulings expected

from a Bush second term.

Kerry was enemy number one to them. They HAD to distort his campaign.


June 2, 2003
Kerry Seeks to Reverse FCC's "Wrongheaded Vote"

Commission Decision May Violate Laws Protecting Small Businesses; Kerry to File Resolution of Disapproval

WASHINGTON - Senator John Kerry today announced plans to file a "Resolution of Disapproval" as a means to overturn today's decision by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to raise media ownership caps and loosen various media cross-ownership rules. Kerry will soon introduce the resolution seeking to reverse this action under the Congressional Review Act and Small Business Regulatory Enforcement Fairness Act on the grounds that the decision may violate the laws intended to protect America's small businesses and allow them an opportunity to compete. As Ranking Member of the Senate Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship, Kerry expressed concern that the FCC's decision will hurt localism, reduce diversity, and will allow media monopolies to flourish. This raises significant concerns about the potential negative impacts the decision will have on small businesses and their ability to compete in today's media marketplace.

In a statement released earlier today regarding the FCC's decision, Kerry said: "Nothing is more important in a democracy than public access to debates and information, which lift up our discourse and give Americans an opportunity to make honest informed choices. Today's wrongheaded vote by the Republican members of the FCC to loosen media ownership rules shows a dangerous indifference to the consolidation of power in the hands of a few large entities rather than promoting diversity and independence at the local level. The FCC should do more than rubber stamp the business plans of narrow economic interests. "Today's vote is a complete dereliction of duty. The Commissioners are well aware that these rules greatly influence the competitive structure of the industry and protect the public's access to multiple sources of information and media. It is the Commission's responsibility to ensure that the rules serve our national goals of diversity, competition, and localism in media. With today's vote, they shirked that responsibility and have dismissed any serious discussion about the impact of media consolidation on our own democracy."

[karynnj]

35. It was surreal I was reading the Kerry blog and watching CSPAN

there was one fanytastic rally after another. Then on cable and the networks, there would by a pompous talking head saying where Kerry was and then cutting to a few sentences - usually the same attacks on Bush - with none of the hope or vision. This in addition to the media condoned character assassination was the media's contribution to 2004. Given all that it is remarkable that Kerry came so close.

[sandnsea]

6. The media didn't show clips like these

He was out there.

[Lucy Goosey]

7. God, no kidding, eh? This Kerry would be accepting his 2nd nom tomorrow night. nt

[MarjorieG]

20. More than a little back-stabbing and intra-party stuff, or he would have been.

[Guava Jelly]

9. He WAS this good back then!

..

[Raine]

10. He's GREAT! nt

[KharmaTrain]

11. Muzzled By Bob Schrum

Damn am I glad he's nowhere near this election.

Kudos Senator Kerry...the unity is coming full circle tonight...and damn it feels good

:patriot:

[derby378]

12. The 2004 version of Kerry treated Bush with kid gloves

I was always waiting for Kerry to come in with the knockout punch. But it was not to be.

I'm hoping that Obama steps into the political octagon with McCain wearing a TapOut shirt and a steely gaze in his eyes. McCain is going DOWN.

[blm]

21. Kerry hit Bush harder in 2004 than ANY Dem ever hit ANY GOP president. He had NO BACKUP from Dems

too cowed by Bush and Rove's power.

[politicasista]

30. Excatly. And people still don't get or see that

He is doing for Obama what Dems should have done for him in 04. It's the corporate media stupid.

[karynnj]

38. True - and I know two swing voters that still

dislike Kerry because of how hard he hit Bush. Having been high schoolers in WWII, they thought it was wrong to criticize a war when it was ongoing. As good Catholics, they correctly interpreted Kerry's comment that it was not "a war of last resort" to mean it was an unjust war.

The President can't be the one attacking - and none of the other Democrats came close to what Kerry did here - few did what Kerry did in 2004. His VP refused to do anything.

It might not have worked because Bush was at 50% and any tougher attacks might have lost more than they could have gained. After all with everything stacked against us in 2004, he would have won had Ohio been fair.

[KatyaR]

13. No shit--he was amazing, wasn't he?

I think Clinton really fired him up.

[blm]

24. Bullshit - you all should be asking WHERE WAS CLINTON'S speech in 2004 for Kerry. Clinton SUCKED

in his speech in 2004 making it all about him and his ego, and barely even mentioned Kerry, and refused to say one word about Kerry's work as the TOP LAWMAKER in DC on terrorism and the tracking of terror networks, even after Bill spent his summer2004 book tour praising Bush's decisions and defending them.

Man - some of you have TERRIBLE MEMORIES.

[AnnieBW]

31. Bill was recovering from his bypass

in Summer 2004. That's why he couldn't campaign for Kerry.

[blm]

36. Baloney. Bill's convention speech in 2004 SUCKED and he barely mentioned Kerry at all. BUT, Bill DID

spend his summer2004 BOOK TOUR vigorously defending Bush in nearly every interview - he defended him from the very criticisms of his terrorism and Iraq war decisions that the Dem NOMINEE was launching against Bush at the time.

Where were YOU that you don't recall that summer? Were you SIDING with Bill's support of Bush and his refusal to acknowledge Kerry's record against terrorism that was UNMATCHED by any other lawmaker in DC?

BTW, Bill's surgery was after the GOP convention in September.

[AnnieBW]

41. I was campaigning for Kerry

Fuck you. I was just mis-remembering the timeline. No need to get insulting. We're all Dems here.

[blm]

42. I'll take that hit - but, I am clear as day that Clinton spent more time siding with Bush publicly

throughout his book tour where he barely even mentioned Kerry.

[karynnj]

44. Your timing is off - he had emergency surgery at the end of August

[LittleClarkie]

25. Talk like that doesn't come from a fired up Kerry. It comes from a pissed off Kerry

and he as much as anyone knows the value of supporting the nominee, something not everyone did for him.

[GrizzlyMan]

14. Trying to battle through the ineptness of Mary Beth Cahill and Bob Shrum

NT

[blm]

22. Kerry won. McAuliffe's inept stewardship of the Dem party assured there'd be no secure election

process for Dem voters no matter WHO the nominee.

[GrizzlyMan]

32. Their limp response to the Swift Boaters had nothing to do with touch screen voting

[blm]

33. Bullshit - You BUY the corpmedia lie. No Dem EVER responded harder to a smear than Kerry did when he

attacked the swifts and challenged Bush to stop HIDING behind them and publicly DEBATE their services during Vietnam. Did you HEAR the media discuss that knockout punch? No. They made sure people didn't hear it - as they refused to broadcast the speech in front of Firefighters Convention where he made the challenge, and few even reported the speech occured. Now, for the last 3 years, media claims Kerry never responded at all, and those Dems who really DIDN'T pay as close attention to the campaign as they claim, repeat the media lie.

[No Elephants]

15. Best speech yet! Omigosh, I wish he had done this in 2004.

[blm]

37. He is DEFENDING Obama and attacking McCain and Bush. This is how OTHER wellknown Dems needed to act

in 2004 on behalf of the nominee, Kerry.

What you all seem to be saying is that Kerry needed a Kerry to do what no other Dem would dare do in 2004 for Kerry.

[blm]

18. He was great in 2004, too. He didn't have Dems with spine backing him up. Most were cowed by Bush

and Rove at their most powerful.

Kerry hit Bush harder than ANY Dem EVER hit any GOP opponent when he challenged him to stop hiding behind the swifts and come out and debate their services during Vietnam. No Dem lawmakers, no left media and few bloggers even discussed that remarkable challenge to a sitting president let alone backed him up on it.

Kerry is doing for Obama what no prominent lawmaker would do for him in 2004 - in fact, most of the best known Dems were using their cache to side with Bush - especially Bill's summer 2004 book tour where he vigorously defended Bush's decisions on terrorism and Iraq war even while Kerry was leading the criticisms of those decisions.

[YvonneCa]

19. You are absolutely right about that, blm. n/t

[fedupinBushcountry]

26. Exactly

You know JK is doing for Obama what many did not do for him in '04.

[blm]

27. Yep - and he's guarding Obama's back from those Dems good at ACTING but not action

when it is most needed.

[politicasista]

40. Definitely n/t

[knixphan]

47. Amen

[JoFerret]

23. Too many advisors

Playing it safe?

This was the real Kerry.

Gore the same thing.

[Occam Bandage]

29. In Handlerstan, where Hillary was held hostage from 2007 to June 2008.

[Top Cat]

34. He would have won if the election had not been stolen from him

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

39. Bull Schrum nt

[blm]

43. Pisspoor Dem spokespeople on TV - all schooled for years in defending Clintons but clueless on Dem

issues or the records of any other Democratic lawmaker.

[hasssan1]

45. FUNNY THAT I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION , YOU ARE 100% RIGHT MY FRIEND

IT'S SAD THAT IF HE WAS THIS FIERY 4 YEARS AGO , WE COULD HAVE A BETTER COUNTRY NOW.


FUCK BUSH AND MCLAME

[blm]

46. Kerry WAS this fiery while the Dem PARTY and best known Dems refused to back him up as most

supported Bush publicly and would even USE THEIR PRECIOUS airtime to DEFEND his decisions on terrorism and Iraq war even as Kerry was our nominee and attacking Bush on those decisions. Many of you seem to have forgotten Bill's summer2004 book tour where he defended Bush vigorously in almost every interview he did for three weeks straight.

[politicasista]

48. Amazing listening to the crickets chirp in this thread after the awesome rebuttals!

Some people complain about the media, then turn around and buy into everything they fabricate.