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Wed Aug-27-08 10:39 PM
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John Kerry's Speech was truly powerful but was not well covered! |
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Edited on Wed Aug-27-08 10:41 PM by Sensitivity
It was in line with the night's theme - Securing America's Future. His indictment of McCain was the strongest of the night.
Most of the nets did not cover it.
Did others see it. What do you think?
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Wed Aug-27-08 10:42 PM
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1. Kerry's speech was one of the best so far |
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I loved the Candidate McCain vs. Senator McCain references. :rofl:
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Wed Aug-27-08 10:44 PM
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3. Absolutely. Funny the KO is complaining re. lack of attacks, but they did not cover Kerry |
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Wed Aug-27-08 10:43 PM
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2. I saw it, but was amazed that TV One didn't cover it |
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Edited on Wed Aug-27-08 10:53 PM by politicasista
I personally think they are trying to make Kerry look irrelevant to AA and downplay his surrogate work, support for Obama. JMO. And it wasn't mentioned in their after party either.
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Wed Aug-27-08 10:45 PM
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4. Clinton, Kerry, and Biden did a great job. I hope they are going to use parts of tonight in ads. |
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What a great night for Dems and bad night for Repukes. I think form comments on CSPAN, it did change some people's mind.
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Wed Aug-27-08 10:46 PM
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I had to listen to most of it on the radio. Then when I got home I first turned on MSNBC just as they cut away from it ("WTF???") and switched over to c-span.
It was really, really good. I can't believe the stupid M$M mostly didn't carry it. :grr: Oh wait, yes I can believe it. :grr:
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Wed Aug-27-08 10:48 PM
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7. I switched from MSNBC and PBS carried it. |
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Wed Aug-27-08 10:52 PM
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11. I switched from MSNBC to CSPAN to see it. |
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These talking heads are so FULL of themselves that I guess it didn't even occur to them that maybe WE would like to hear Kerry speak and come to our OWN conclusions .
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Wed Aug-27-08 10:47 PM
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You can tell that Kerry really has Obama's back. He doesn't want what happened to him to happen to Barack.
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Wed Aug-27-08 10:49 PM
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8. Kerry did an excellent job with that speech. nm |
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Wed Aug-27-08 10:50 PM
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10. Dish Network had it's own channel for the live feed. |
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I had it on all night. If you have sat. or cable, check the channel listings, it may be in there in the channel lineup . It's refreshing. Just a live HD feed from 5-8 cameras. No commercials, no talking heads, no repub smears. Just John Kerry from start to finish.
And his speech was great!:hi:
I was thinking that the nets were going to cut away from him. I thought to myself that he should've said something like..."I'll have to stop a second, until Fox News lets Bill Kristol finish criticizing me, so they can get back to covering this convention like a news channel should be."
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Wed Aug-27-08 10:53 PM
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12. MSNBC was talking about the Republican convention WHILE Kerry was speaking |
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I was watching MSNBC and Chuck Todd was yakking about the Republicans when I flicked over to CSPAN to see John Kerry deliver a fantastic, spirited and dedicated speech. I'm guessing the MSNBC staff and all the other corporate stations willing to talk about NOTHING were willing not to give Kerry a voice. Just like 4 years ago...
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Wed Aug-27-08 11:00 PM
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15. Exactly, they still try to marginalize him. |
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I am listening now and it is all about Gore delivery red meat tomorrow. I sure Gore will be covered. Tonight, they figured their job was only to cover Clinton then spend an hour analyzing his speech.
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Wed Aug-27-08 10:56 PM
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13. Senator Kerry made an excellent speech and it was predicable that the networks |
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would attempt to ignore it. It is up to us to spread the word.
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Wed Aug-27-08 11:11 PM
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19. Such a disgrace. All the attention was on discussing the Clinton impact |
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Wed Aug-27-08 11:18 PM
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23. That's all I'm hearing right now on the MSM |
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They distort things so. There were great speeches made by others (Kucinich, Schweitzer, come to mind) and they don't even bother to report it. I've been watching CSPAN so I'm getting the whole picture, not the regurgitated stuff from the MSM.
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Wed Aug-27-08 10:56 PM
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Context wise it was great to listen to - I thought he was getting shafted on coverage, and wished that hadn't been the case. First one to lay out it against McCain, point by point. I think his oratory skills just aren't at the level of Obama and the Clintons; so he didn't get the attention or credit he should have for that wonderful content rich speech striking McCain where he is weak.
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Wed Aug-27-08 11:04 PM
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16. . Actually, I have heard him give speeches as good if not better than Bill Clinton. |
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Senator Kerry has been saddled with a tag of being a poor speaker and that is just wrong.
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Wed Aug-27-08 11:06 PM
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Wed Aug-27-08 11:11 PM
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18. Yeah, he has been known to give a good speech |
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every now and then.
And it was a pleasure to take in one of those speeches with you a couple of years ago. That was incredible.
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Wed Aug-27-08 11:21 PM
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his oratory skills tonight were not on par with what either Clinton delivered this week (and to be fair, I thought Hillary had a far better speech than I remember her giving for quite some time, so she was far above what I'd come to expect. Quite excellent I thought). I can definitely give Kerry credit for some wonderfully delivered speeches in the past, so not like he can't do it. But we can agree to disagee about Kerry's abilities, such that he could exceed Bill Clinton on a regular basis.
Probably just a matter of individual preference as to what reaches out and grabs us - I happen to like some hot sauce and chilli pepper as speech seasoning (felt that fire I got when I listened to Hillary this time). Kerry's words were motivating to me, but I wished they'd made the hair stand up on my neck (I think done by someone else, that particular speech could have done so). May take more lighter fluid to set a cynical old woman like me on fire than for most.
I don't like Bill Clinton, but he knows speech giving and can be on fire at the drop of a hat, and take people right along with him for the trip. Gifted that way.
ETA: Should also say of all the speeches so far, I enjoyed John Kerry's the best, because that is the message I wanted to hear someone deliver the most. Just didn't do it in a light my fire way for me.
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Thu Aug-28-08 12:21 AM
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29. My only complaint is that I wish he would slow down, |
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Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 12:21 AM by ginnyinWI
so that I could savor every word. :)
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Thu Aug-28-08 09:41 AM
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I kept thinking "dang, wish dh were here to listen to this, because there is so much good stuff I won't be able to remember it all to repeat it" to him!
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Wed Aug-27-08 11:17 PM
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20. I loved that part when he referred to the flip flop of Sen McCain |
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vs. Candidate McCain. That was great!
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Wed Aug-27-08 11:17 PM
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21. I wish I could have seen it |
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Hubby had on MSNBC and all I was able to hear was Keith and Chris yammering away. Then they played music on top of most of Kerry's speech. I'm very disappointed to have missed many of the good speeches as they were happening. My son had on CNN so luckily I was able to see the short film about our troops by Steven Spielberg. MSNBC was too busy yacking to show that either. Give it a rest guys!
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Wed Aug-27-08 11:17 PM
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22. It's on MSNBC now n/t |
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Wed Aug-27-08 11:18 PM
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24. I thought it was TERRIFIC - taking it right to them!!! |
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Wed Aug-27-08 11:19 PM
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25. Charlie Paine moment........ but |
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the MSNBC feed is not showing charlie like CSPAN did.
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Thu Aug-28-08 12:16 AM
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27. K & R for my President Kerry! |
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Thu Aug-28-08 12:17 AM
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28. Carried on CSpan - if you didn't see it catch it cause it was great! |
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Thu Aug-28-08 12:21 AM
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30. CNN and MSNBC are blowing their coverage. |
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Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 12:22 AM by SmellsLikeDeanSpirit
MSNBC more so than CNN, but still crappy. They didn't show Kucinich's speech, the governor from Montana (name escapes me at the moment), or John Kerry's. The MSM is bitching and moaning about how there is no 'red meat', but they refuse to show it.
And if I see David Gregory's face one more time I'm going to turn violent.
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Thu Aug-28-08 12:27 AM
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32. Agreed--they are really dropping the ball |
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I turn on CNN and there is this panel of stuffed shirts lined up to give us their punditry--ugh, turn the channel.
I turn on MSNBC and it's all about the pundits and telling us what we have just seen and what it means, and trying to twist everything into a conflict or else a "concern". Nothing can be just plain nice with these people. They think we are addicted to division, battle, taking sides, fighting.
Just try to have "one America" with these people around! When they get us to focus on all that crap, we miss the real spirit of the Convention.
For anyone who's been struggling with the cable networks, try tomorrow with C-span and you'll be delighted.
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Thu Aug-28-08 12:23 AM
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31. Tonight, Kerry showed again that he is the best fighter we have |
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Thu Aug-28-08 12:30 AM
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33. a full-throated call to arms. |
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Kerry has a way of bringing out the patriotism and love of country in us, because he has so much of it inside himself. A call for truth, justice, and progress that we need so badly now.
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