McCain lost his evangelicals with that VP pick, IMHO.

[amitten]

The evangelicals I've known do NOT like the idea of women in power. In fact, it's one of the main reasons they hated Hillary.

Could McCain have screwed up more royally...?

[OmahaBlueDog]

1. Disagree

She is the front line in the fight against legal abortion. They feel a young (in political terms) woman can carry that argument forward.

[ingac70]

4. We are talking hardcore fundies...

Southern Baptists won't like it at all.

[GreenPartyVoter]

14. "No women, No Catholics, no way"

[ingac70]

2. "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."

1 Timothy 2:12

[yardwork]

3. Most fundy churches use that passage to justify keeping women out of leadership positions.

I think a lot of the fundies will vote for McCain-Palin because they'll be told to do so and they're nothing if not authoritarian enablers, but McCain already had those votes.

[Tesla]

5. that doesn't count in this incident

"she is doing Jesus' work"

[stray cat]

15. No it definitely does count - women are not to teach or rule over men

even in church where it is religious work. Of course, teaching elementary school boys is acceptible. Some churches women are not even allowed to be greeters at the door.

[stray cat]

16. Evangelicals do not equal rigid fundamentalists - the beliefs on women as leaders can differ

[kwolf68]

6. Then

Why do people like Melissa Hart get elected?

The fundies would elect their pet dog if it voted for theocracy, against science.

[amitten]

7. Not if their pet dog is female. n/t

[Occam Bandage]

8. Funny. That's not what polling on her shows.

[Overseas]

9. But she wants Creationism in science class and hates choice !!

I guess that's what they are hoping will overcome her femaleness.

[panAmerican]

10. You would be wrong. She is PERFECT draw for most evangelicals

McCain doesn't care about fundies, which you guys confuse with evangelicals.

[Hugabear]

11. The evangelicals are the ones who were pushing McCain to pick her

The love her strong anti-choice, pro-gun, anti-labor, anti-gay platform.

Her gender has nothing to do with it. IMHO, they see her as simply an easy tool for them to manipulate.

[rufus dog]

12. Strongly disagree

I live in the shadow of Saddleback.

Rick Warren, during a Mothers Day service, said Mothers should be staying home with the kids.

Rick Warren will say what a monumental pick this is and guide his flock to vote for her.

[RedEarth]

13. That's true for the fundies ..... Sunday School Teacher Fired For Being A Woman

First he dismissed 81-year-old Mary Lambert from the Diaconate Board of the First Baptist Church along with two members, claiming there were attendance issues.

Now the Rev. Timothy LaBouf has dismissed Mary Lambert as a Sunday School teacher for an adult class after she's been on the job for over 50 years, claiming that his interpretation of the Bible is that a woman is prohibited from teaching men.

Lambert has been a church member for 54 years and a long time Sunday School teacher but got a letter dated Aug. 9 from LaBouf and the board saying that the Bible says a woman can perform any job, as long as its outside of the church.

LaBouf, who has been pastor at the church for about two years, and is also a member of the Watertown City Council, quotes the first epistle to Timothy which hold "I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent".

Lambert received the letter signed by Kendra LaBouf, wife of the pastor. "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission" the letter said. "I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became sinner".

Lambert says problems began occurring within the church after LaBouf's arrival two years ago. She made the letter public, touching off a firestorm of public controversy.

On Friday the church board issued a statement which said that "In the specific case of Ms. Lambert, the board's decision to remove her from a teaching position was multifaceted and the scriptural rules concerning women teaching men in a church setting was only a small aspect of that decision. Christian courtesy motivates us to refrain from making any pubic accusations against her".


http://www.northcountrygazette.org/articles/082106SundaySchool.html

[LibDemAlways]

17. I think he lost some voters by simply putting

a woman on the ticket. Choosing a mother of 5, one an infant, will also cost him votes, particularly among older voters like my mom who don't think mothers of young children should be in the workforce unless economic necessity requires it. Archaic, yes, but that's the way some people think. And I do agree with you that this will not sit well with some evangelicals who are going to have a problem voting for a woman who, in their perception, is putting career ahead of family.

[applegrove]

18. I didn't think of that. I thought evangelicals would like her because of

her pro-life stance. But yeah - many are sexist too.