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Fri Aug-29-08 02:52 PM
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Wow, There Sure Are A Lot Of "DU'ers" Trying To Convince Us That Palin |
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Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 02:53 PM by Beetwasher
Is a good pick for McCain and that Obama better look out!
Not too obvious are they? :rofl:
Saving up points for some McCain gear? :rofl:
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Fri Aug-29-08 02:54 PM
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1. Me, I'm just scratching my head over this pick. |
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Fri Aug-29-08 02:54 PM
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2. I get it--you're trying to figure out an angle. The GOP is crafty but not stupid...usually. |
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I don't think there is an angle this time--they really, really are this desperate.
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Fri Aug-29-08 02:57 PM
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Correct, This Was Desperation, Nothing More |
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McCain desperately needed to make a splash and boy oh boy did he! But not in the way he wanted.
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Fri Aug-29-08 03:00 PM
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They can't want to lose, can they?
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:42 AM
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34. I'm in the same seat as you. There HAS to be more to this. |
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everyone should just keep digging for it.
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Fri Aug-29-08 02:57 PM
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Suddenly I don't underestimate the opposition, that makes me into the opposition? Great, I guess there's no reason to bust our asses working for Obama, we obviously have this one in the bag. :sarcasm:
There are real legitimate reasons to be concerned about this choice, and NOT to underestimate McCain, the Republican media and spin machine, especially when they are in desperation mode as they are right now.
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Fri Aug-29-08 02:58 PM
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4. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! !!! |
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Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 02:59 PM by Beetwasher
You're "concern" is duly noted, thanks for playing! :rofl:
Who said anything about not still working our asses off? What's that? No one? Oh, you just made that part up out of thin air, I get it.
Pathetic.
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:02 AM
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20. I see you're a member of the concern police, or as i like to call them |
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Fri Aug-29-08 03:01 PM
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9. Its a sad case for the this discussion board to make fun of |
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posters who have valid concerns.
To underestimate the repugs is not wise.
And it was a desperate move on mccains part -IMHO--. He has actively been courting the womens vote and he may get some from this political move. Then again he may lose some. We have to let it play out for a while. Too soon to tell.
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Fri Aug-29-08 03:05 PM
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14. No, Anyone Who Thinks This Was A Good Pick Deserves Ridicule |
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You "concern" is also duly noted. :rofl:
It's not too soon to tell, not at all. This was without a doubt a desperate, hail mary pick to, as McCain even admits "shake up the system". It was immature and politically calculated and rash. That's how he makes his decisions.
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Sat Aug-30-08 09:59 AM
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18. It was a Hail Mary pass |
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by the mccain camp.
i am no supported of her policies but I will not demean women--with broad strokes --in the process of debate.
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Fri Aug-29-08 03:00 PM
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6. McCain is being advised by Max Bialystock... |
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this is the curtain rising on his "Springtime for Hitler" moment
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Fri Aug-29-08 03:01 PM
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8. I don't believe it was a good pick for the nation, but I understand it. |
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Politically, McSame wants to ride the corporate media promoted gender wave of which they have magnified throughout the Democratic Primary.
Palin is also a global warming denier, who believes the Polar Bear should be taken off the threatened species list, something the oil corporations would love in order to make drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge much easier. McSame knows if the oil corporations are willing to buy corrupt incompetence such as Cheney/Bush in to power, they will be happy to send money his direction with another corporate oil loving VP pick.
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Fri Aug-29-08 03:02 PM
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10. I could be wrong but it appears DU is crawling with freepers today |
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Fri Aug-29-08 03:03 PM
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11. They need to STFU and |
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get with the program or get the fuck off.
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Fri Aug-29-08 03:04 PM
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13. ABSOLUTELY!! Well said, zidzi. (maybe they're masochists?) |
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Fri Aug-29-08 03:04 PM
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12. Did you happen to notice Bush became president instead of Al Gore and then Kerry? |
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Fri Aug-29-08 03:06 PM
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So, what's your point? That McCain will steal this election too? What does Palin have to do with that? Is she rigging the machines? :shrug:
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Fri Aug-29-08 03:06 PM
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15. i only think it's a good pick because it makes mckook look like the cynical old bastard he is |
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Fri Aug-29-08 03:12 PM
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17. It's a good desperate pick |
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I posted a long opinion in the Intrade thread. Every political gambler I talked to or emailed today thinks McCain is slightly better positioned based on this pick. That was my instinct also. I damn sure wish he had picked a white male bozo.
The situational advantage is ours and Obama is rightfully a 60/40 favorite.
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:02 AM
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19. There will be more surprises coming in order to make the election closer...... |
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...you cannot steal an election when there are too many large leads in key states.
Watch the electoral numbers in each of those states instead of the national tracking polls.
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:10 AM
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21. On paper, she is a completely ridiculous pick. In reality ... AMERICANS ARE STOOOOPID! |
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That's my concern ... I'm already hearing people being interviewed about how excited they are about having a good Christian pro-life mom on the ticket blah blah blah. Americans are stupid and easily led. I know 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen, but they were close enough for the GOoPers to steal. That's cuz Americans are STOOPID! George W. Bush is a circus clown, barely conversant in the English language. And he's a two-term president. I rest my case.
Sara Palin may look completely ridiculous to us, but there will be lots of fundies out there who will fall madly in love with her.
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:22 AM
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27. DING DING DING We have a winner. |
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All this has to do is stay in the fucking news to increase his poll numbers.
And if it looks like a horse race:
Teh sheeple love an underdog (and his perky (fundy) sidekick). THe "Don't ya just LOVE her" vote could be huge.
The Guns'n Jesus brigades are going to be chomping at the bit to elect a woman who can kill and gut a fucking ELK and stop an abortion all in the same afternoon.
At this late stage, vilifying her with the TRUTH is going to be very difficult as long as the maverick myth is being spun.
She could be the stupidist fucking pick out there, but here in Bizzarro world it makes perfect sense.
Belize. I'm riding my bicycle to Belize.
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:12 AM
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22. I want to get the diaper carrier. |
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Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 10:14 AM by cliffordu
The McCain Gear diaper carrier.
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:13 AM
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23. It was a terrible pick, BUT... |
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I've been over-confident before! Never underestimate how STUPID the American public can be.
I think (or hope) the point is that we can't take anything for granted, and need to continue to work and contribute and get out the vote for Obama-Biden.
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:16 AM
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24. It seems wrong to say that they 'lucked out' with Smirk, |
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Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 10:19 AM by Sugarcoated
but, they lucked out with Smirk. Dumbed down, 'folky', all the right issues for the bible thumpers. They were in the process of pushing another Smirtk-like idiot with George Allen, but he was too racist. Then their other 'folky' guy, Fred Thompson the 'second coming of Reagan, their ace in the hole, was a snoozer.
Bush/Rove'ers like Mary Matalin think that's 'the formula'. This VP pick not only shows astoundingly poor judgement on McShmuck's part, but reminds America of the cronyism and the endless stream of incompetent appointments under Smirk/Snarl. I don't think it's gonna fly. Most of America is done with it, they're angry. Enough.
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:20 AM
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25. It's a Rovian trick, and they've worked in the past. I don't know what's happening... |
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on the Board, exactly, but if anyone wants to call me a troll, that's fine. My guess is that this trick will not work, as the enormity of the possible consequences of the choice sinks in, but I wouldn't bet on it not working in McCain's favor.
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:37 AM
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31. It's going to work for their faithful and the fundies |
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and they might snag a small percentage of suburban moms, but they'll be women who just aren't paying that much attention. The number of PUMA's are a greatly exagerated.
I believe a majority of American's are fucking angry and Obama sealed the deal Thursday night. They threw a hail mary, changed their message, muddied the waters and figured, they better rev up their base because McSchmuck's banging his head at 45%. I'm no expert, but I think McSchmucks people feel they have no choice but to get their base energized. The experience message is working as well as it did for Hillary and they're trying to take over the change message, but they're calling it 'reform'.
They may gain some votes in the western states, solidify some southern states that were going to win anyway. People vote for the top of the ticket and Obama passed the commander-in-chief test and then some.
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:41 AM
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33. I agree -- if it helps, it helps among the GOP's wingnut base. And I don't believe... |
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for a minute it will bring one authentic Hillary Clinton supporter over to McCain.
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:21 AM
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26. We can't take Palin lightly and need to use this EPIC FLOP to our advantage. Attack. Attack. Attack |
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Tie her to McCain and his terrible judgment and desperation.
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:23 AM
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28. I love the ones "warning" us not to attack her. |
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Those are the best! :rofl:
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:26 AM
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29. I keep thinking its some kind of trap... |
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I mean, this seems to good to be true, their has to be a catch. Or maybe that is the catch that we will get paranoid and not attack her.
Personally I say let Hillary handle it. and Biden can mop her up on the issues.
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:28 AM
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30. I'll admit all day yesterday I was concerned |
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She is a fundie and this will help more fundies go to the polls and even if she eeks out a few more female moderate votes it could throw McSame/Failin over the top.
However, this morning, as I have read more it seems like they have not really vetted this women. Of course we can look at her very rocky past but the key is will the media do the same? If they do they could have a field day with her.
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:43 AM
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35. They sent out the surrogates |
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and they were working it hard. It's meant to be demoralizing. But all the spinning in the world can't change the facts on the ground. This one isn't going work for them. It's too irresponsible. A 72 year old 4 time melanoma cancer survivor in a scary world picks a soccer mom who eats moose burgers to be his backup?? They're in their own little world over there in far right land if they think middle America is going go for it.
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:37 AM
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32. Palin is absolutely qualified, dammit. Take a look at the link inside. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_Michael_Palin_has_travelled_toHow can you knock the foreign relations experience that . . . oh, wait a minute: Wrong Palin. Come to think of it, Michael is more experienced, more educated and, as I recall, didn't look too bad in a dress back in the day. Michael Palin for GOP-VP! :rofl:
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Sat Aug-30-08 11:30 AM
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36. That's the ticket, LOL |
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But Michael Palin is too intelligent, the GOOP likes them not-too-bright so they can be manipulated easier.
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