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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 08:26 PM
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Rove waiting for us to take the bait on this Palin Scandal
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6823353&mesg_id=6823353

I smell it to high hell.

We criticize for the scandal, then she ends up being correct (or at least perceived as being correct).

Let this one simmer a bit. It's not soup yet.

Just my gut feel.


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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 08:30 PM
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1. Me too. Let the media do. She is not going to well. She's a mother of 5 w/ a Downs baby.
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 08:30 PM by thunder rising
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 08:30 PM
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2. I'm with you on that one - we don't even need to take shots at her
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 08:30 PM by Cronus Protagonist
Let McCain shoot himself in the foot over and over till he can't even walk, never mind run for office. He'll hang himself just as surely as his buddies hanged others in the past.
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:13 PM
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20. Yosemite Sam
I like that visual
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 08:31 PM
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3. mainly because half the people I was with believed it until I explained the situation to them
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 08:32 PM
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4. She's a noob to national campaigning. I suspect she'll hang herself.
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 08:33 PM by ChimpersMcSmirkers
If not, then we can hit her on her right-wingnut stances.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 08:33 PM
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5. It has an independent council that both republicans and democrats thought were
necessary to investigate and spend money on.

This will play out before the election.
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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 08:37 PM
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6. you can never be correct when you abuse your power for spiteful personal reasons
it doesn't matter if the trooper was a dirtbag.

she is the governor and she wielded her authority in ways contrary to the law.

this has legs
she tried to use political pressure to get an enemy fired
she got a commissioner canned, for not complying with her demands
she abused her office
no question about it
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 08:43 PM
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7. I agree, but don't tell that to the Clint Eastwood/Vigilante types
Why excite their base and the independents who watch High Plains Drifter every Saturday on TMC.

Think about it.

They are going to try to make everyone afraid of Obama (read Willie Horton ads of GHWBush) and here she is protecting her own without regard to her office or livelihood.

That's where they are going with this.

November is always from the gut and heart and not from the brain. Remember that.







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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 09:29 PM
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13. you mean the Ted Nugent's of the World?
she might get them with that clip of her shooting a machine gun

or the giant bearskin
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:11 PM
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19. No, I mean her defending a child that was Tasered.
That's at the root of the so called scandal.





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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:16 PM
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22. Baloney. She tried to fire someone who had nothing to do with the tasering.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:29 PM
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26. I understand. (This is incredible)
I understand, but I'm coming from the standpoint of how they will spin this thing at the convention.

At the convention, they'll paint her as this maverick woman who put her job on the line to protect a child.

The end result is an energized base and folks on the margins opening up to her.

Why doesn't anyone here get that?

It's way too fucking obvious!

These people are about to look America in the eye next week and tell all of us on national TV that water isn't wet.


Whatever. This place is nuts.


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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:17 PM
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23. no the root is that she used her position to try and get a man fired
if he broke the law, it is up to the justice system to prosecute him,
not the vindictive Governor.

But thanks for spreading the Repuke excuse for why this is ok.
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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 09:05 PM
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8. you are right on
she will be seen as correct because the brother in law is a real son of a bitch... and the msm/rove will carry this water/spin.
However he (brother in law) was investigated and charges dropped. Then she decided that wasnt good enough and started trying to get him fired anyway.

We cant win on this.

Underestimate her at our peril. She is very slippery and the men loves them their Barbie.
I even like her okay except she is a puke and I will never vote for one.
tib
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senaca Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:08 PM
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16. Wouldn't the abuse of power be in firing the Chief of Police for personal reasons?
Maybe I'm not getting this. To me that is the bigger argument in abuse of power. We've seen too much of this. Plame comes to mind.
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BamaforObama Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 09:06 PM
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9. It's a trap
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 09:12 PM
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10. The republicans trapped themselves
I mean what kind of cute little gotcha could they hope to get? How much damage could it do and how long could it last? No, it will quickly become very clear what a poor choice this woman is, and the GOP will be stuck with her.
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tribeofdot Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 09:16 PM
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11. Yeah, in fact in this case if its true I support what she did...
Abuse of power is bad I know I know...

lets get her for her psychotic stance on abortion. For her young earth creationism. For her Card Carrying conservative statues.

Get her for the right reasons. A petty thing like trooper whatever doesn’t matter. Telling rape victims they must have the child.... THAT DOES
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:15 PM
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21. Rachel Maddow agrees with you.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 09:16 PM
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12. We can be all over this scandal. There's one brewing at Kos you don't want to touch.
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 09:18 PM by Wizard777
There is a rumor going around Alaska that Trig is actually her grandson and she's covering for her daughter. What the rumor is based on is Palin not showing any outward sign of pregnancy and her daughter has been hidden away for several months. Supposedly with mono according to her school. This is the Rove bait trap scandal we don't want to touch. Leave it for the tabloids.

Palin's faked "pregnancy"? Covering for teen daughter? UPDATE #2!
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 09:30 PM
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14. The Mayo clinic said that she should not fly
the story will come out.
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tribeofdot Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 09:52 PM
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15. ALERT THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN FAST.
Seriously make sure send emails and alert them that this is a trap.
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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:18 PM
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24. alert alert oh noes palin is crumbling!!!!!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:10 PM
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17. of course he is behind this whole fiasco
let us keep focused on McCain, they are pissed off because we have the best to offer.

Let us stay focused and elect Barack and Joe. They deserve it.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:42 PM
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18. Obama is not attacking personalities or character. He is attacking the GOP for their policies.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:25 PM
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25. I am sick to death of "Karl Rove This" and "Karl Rove That"
Karl Rove is a slimey politician who's benefitted from an inattentive and lazy press corps. The simple fact is that he couldn't have done what he has done unless the press was complicit.

The press is on to him now, which means that Karl Rove is not nearly (or not at all as effective as he once was).

This Kaiser Soze crap where Karl Rove is some kind of genius puppet-master controling the wind and tides has more than fucking outworn it's welcome.

John McCain was pissed off that he didn't get his first choice, and so he picked somebody totally unqualified and with lots of political baggage that would have been apparent had he vetted her.

That's the story, folks. Karl Rove is not hiding under your fucking bed.
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