Um... about the "sexist palin threads"

[whatchamacallit]

PALIN IS THE FUCKING ENEMY! DESTROY HER!


BTW, nobody is calling women sexist for going after McCain. Why is this different?


EDIT: Okay I get it, you all think I'm endorsing anything shitty that was said about palin in other posts. That's not what I was aiming to do.

[Solon]

1. So any and all means is not only necessary, but moral as well?

What the fuck is the point of all this shit if we act like THEM! For fuck's sake! Have some respect for yourself, at the very least, even if you can't respect your "enemies".

[texastoast]

11. It's not about destroying "her"

It's about debunking the ideas she has and pointing out hypocrisy, with a blind eye to whatever sex, skin color, toothbrushing habits, whatever, that the hypocrite has.

Today, we've been talking about the person.

Is it misogynistic that she has no experience? That's not because she is a woman--it is because she has no experience.

That she is trying to come off as someone who has family values but is willing to let a newborn stay with a nanny? That is not misogynistic--it is pointing out utter hypocrisy.

That she is pro-life but promotes the senseless, cruel, aerial killing of wolves and bears? Check the hypocrisy note above.

That she has used her position to bully her brother-in-law and is in a scandal? And that has to do with her being a woman . . . how?

That she wants the world to believe she is smart enough to be vice president and at the same time believes that creationism should be taught in schools? How does misogyny have any relation to this anti-constitutional idea?

It doesn't have to do with "the woman"--it has to do with the actions of "the person."

[shimmergal]

44. The business about

being willing to "let a newborn stay with a nanny" _is_ misogynist. I've never seen a man criticized for hiring a nanny if that was necessary for him to do his job.

[Chovexani]

2. Then I guess it's okay for the freepers to fling N words at Obama

:shrug:

[whatchamacallit]

5. Where the fuck did I say or insinuate that?

I'm just saying when it comes to our republican opponents, it's gloves off. That's sure the hell how they're gonna play it.

[Chovexani]

10. Your very post insinuates that.

Everything's fair game when dealing with "the enemy", after all. Right?

What you and your fellow keyboard warriors are advocating is nothing less than the wholesale adoption of the Southern Strategy. It was no less offensive when the Repukes did it on race, and anyone embracing this idea in the name of "getting even" with foes or "winning" is a disgrace to this party. But I guess y'all had stomach aches and stayed home that day in kindergarten when we had that lesson that how you win is more important than winning.

Do you motherfuckers not understand there are women in this party? Women that pay attention? Women who are not nearly so stupid as to believe that your deep-seated misogyny is only reserved for women on the other side of the aisle?

Really, I promise you that we are not that stupid.

[whatchamacallit]

17. Bullshit! You're the sexist, I don't give a rat's ass about her gender. All I see is republican.

Is it sexist for women to pound McCain?

[Chovexani]

30. LMAO

Attacking the person calling them on their bigotry as the "real" bigot.

My gods, I just won fauxgressive white hetero male bingo! :party:

[whatchamacallit]

33. Where in this post did I make a bigoted statement?

It's all your projection.

[mitchum]

38. You're probably not aware that some people collect memberships in multiple...

subcultures in order to always have multiple residences from which to be aggrieved. And to seem more interesting.
Don't sweat it.

[whatchamacallit]

41. Dig

Thanks

[texastoast]

Yes. It points out their Neanderthalism

With apologies to Neanderthals.

[Chovexani]

And "our side" using misogyny to win does the same.

[texastoast]

13. See my post below or above wherever n/t

[Chovexani]

26. You're confused.

The issues in your post are not an example of misogyny. Your post is what we SHOULD be focused on, because the issues you brought up in it are entirely legitimate ones to be attacking her on.

Where the misogyny lies is the repeated "MILF" horseshit, attacking her teenage daughter, and attacking her for daring to work outside the home. It's this 1950s sexist bullshit being propagated under the guise of "it's about the hypocrisy" and "she's the enemy".

No thought--none WHATSOEVER--is ever given to the fact that using sexist attacks against one woman is using sexist attacks against ALL women.

Because, you know? I and a lot of other women have heard a lot of the same misogynist bullshit directed towards us over various choices we've made in our lives and it stinks and is awful no matter what the reason is.

And people wonder why there are PUMAs. This kind of horseshit is what makes PUMAs.

[mitchum]

43. Really now? I was under the impression that gop funding $$$$ was what made PUMAs

[mitchum]

3. If she can't stand up and take a hit like a man...

she needs to get out of the goddamn game.
It really is that simple.

[texastoast]

24. Now that's pretty sexist

Are you a disruptor?

[mitchum]

31. No,saying "misogyny is in the blackened eye of the beholder" would be sexist

Granted, it is also darkly witty, but still probably sexist

Are you a disruptor?

[texastoast]

37. Not tonight particularly

O8)

[mitchum]

40. Well, that's two of us

:)

[blondeatlast]

4. God help me, I'm agreeing with Solon--but who died and left you in charge of stifling opinion? nt

[texastoast]

6. Self-delete

[JohnnyLib2]

7. Here's the definition of sexism. Notice any lately?

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This
sex·ism Audio Help /ˈsɛksɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. attitudes or behavior based on traditional stereotypes of sexual roles.
2. discrimination or devaluation based on a person's sex, as in restricted job opportunities; esp., such discrimination directed against women.

[whatchamacallit]

9. Not in this thread

:shrug:

[JohnnyLib2]

21. My response was to your OP, re: "sexist.....threads"

The count on those is way up today.

[whatchamacallit]

35. ah...

[mitchum]

34. Well,I DO want to restrict Palin's job opportunities; I don't want her anywhere near the Oval Office

[JohnnyLib2]

39. Heh.

:thumbsup:

[JVS]

8. always attack. always smear. leave no stone unthrown

[whatchamacallit]

12. Wow, I don't get it... Who smeared her?

I have a feeling you'll change your mind when she starts spewing grade AAA republican poison.

[JVS]

14. I was being sincere and agreeing with you. HEAVE THE MUD AT HER

[whatchamacallit]

27. Oh.

sorry.

[Danger Mouse]

15. Bullshit. I want no part of freeper and puke tactics.

[whatchamacallit]

19. WTF? So I say destroy the republican enemy and that means I'm advocating "freeper tactics"

What a pantload

[Danger Mouse]

25. Well you said, do anything to destroy the enemy right?

So using sexist smears against her is okay in your book?

[whatchamacallit]

36. I didn't say "do anything" n/t

[texastoast]

20. Show me the sexism

Show me where we have been attacking Palin's sex. Link up some threads where DU'ers are saying that she sucks because she's a woman.

[Danger Mouse]

22. Questioning her motherhood and her choices as a mother? Sexist.

Saying 'let's see some naked pics' or calling her a bimbo? Sexist
'She can take ten inches'? Sexist.

[texastoast]

29. Not at all

When she puts rants her mouth with traditional "family values." If you are going to be Mrs. Mom, then get yourself to the house and bake some cookies and be home every day with the kids. I as a feminist will fight for her right to do so.

But don't come at me and say you are Ms. Mom ("I'm just a hockey mom") and have a nanny to take care of your kids every day. Just say that you are a working mother with uncontained ambition and get it the hell over with. THAT I can stomach.

If you see some threads with language like bimbo and other untoward stuff, you should post them for me.

[Colobo]

16. She needs to be defeated. Period.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

18. dumbest post i have seen all day

no one is saying not to attack pallin. people are staying not to attack her in misogynistic ways

if you cant tell the difference between yourself and your enemy, why bother trying to win

is mccain being attacked in any misandrist way?

[whatchamacallit]

23. Please point out the "misogynistic" part of my post?

That is if you can

[La Lioness Priyanka]

28. i didnt say your post was sexist just that no one is saying you cannot attack palin

just dont attack her in reasons based in sexism

[whatchamacallit]

32. Yeah, duh

:shrug:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

46. i am aware that you dont get it. nt

[mitchum]

42. She's the one who participated in a BEAUTY PAGEANT; apparently she has no problem with sexism...

or its institutions

[kwenu]

45. I'm with you. DESTROY HER!!! She's terrible and that has nothing to do with her gender.