She will have to debate Joe Biden.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

I repeat: Joe Biden.

That is all.

[tridim]

1. I bet she calls in sick.

[KittyWampus]

11. I bet she gets the questions before hand. Or wears a wire.

[1corona4u]

34. I say she wears a wire.

[TwilightZone]

2. Yeah, but the bar is going to be set so ridiculously low by then that she'll 'win' if she shows up.

Pundits: "She's breathing! What a performance!"

[Bobbie Jo]

8. Would they hold any other candidate to that standard?

Of course not. It's complete bullshit.

[TwilightZone]

9. Well, do you mean other than Bush?

He was held to a very similar standard.

[last_texas_dem]

30. Yup; I think you nailed it

Remember how the pundits claimed Bush beat Gore in their first debate 'cause Gore seemed "mean" and sighed too much? I don't even want to think about how much lower they're going to set the bar for Palin in a Biden-Palin debate...

[az chela]

3. As if she could,that will be the debate joke of the century

[HowHasItComeToThis]

4. SHE WILL BEAT HIM IN THE EYES OF THE EVANGELICALS

NO MATTER WHAT SHE SAYS

[SoxFan]

16. Well, duh

That crowd will write off Biden the instant he is one of us miserable, hellbound, Mary-worshipping, pope-loving mackerel snappers.

[melody]

25. As I said, we never had the idiot vote ... we don't have to worry about them.

Anyone who'd believe anything from her is in dire need of, well, something we don't have the capacity to give
them yet.

[AuntPatsy]

5. bush was blown out of the water by Kerry and yet the media said the opposite

[KittyWampus]

12. no, actually. Let's not revise history. the media admitted Kerry won both debates

[AuntPatsy]

20. that is not the media that I heard....not even close...they made kerry look weak period

and we all know who the weaker one was I used to faithfully watch the msm

[Jackpine Radical]

6. The press will flay Biden when he "picks on her" by revealing her idiocy

and incompetence. They'll do a job on him like they did on Gore when he trounced Shrub in 2000. All of a sudden Al's sigh of exasperation became the story.

At leat that's the fear I've been living with since I heard about her nomination.

[PA Democrat]

35. Sadly, you're probably right, but the ONLY thing that should be off the table

are attacks that are sexist in nature. Everything else is and should be fair game. It is an insult to the women who ARE competent to hold the office of VP to treat her otherwise.

[Muttocracy]

7. Biden will have to answer questions with facts, attack McCain, and ignore her. nt

[KittyWampus]

13. yup, Biden should just use it as an opportunity for a campaign appearance for himself.

[libnnc]

14. I'm beginning to think he should just ignore her too...

that might be a good strategy.

Beat the hell outta Gramps non-stop and pretend that "Gidget" is completely invisible.

[Muttocracy]

15. Even if it was a more substantial VP, Biden's job is to take down McCain with the facts. nt

[Starbucks Anarchist]

10. Like Ali versus Webster.

[Colobo]

18. Wepner?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

19. No, I meant Webster:

[jobycom]

17. And he will shred her, as Bentsen shredded Dan Quayle, and Gore shredded Bush.

Our candidates always win the debate, and the media always convinces voters that the Republican really won it because our candidate sighed, or knew too much, or had bad make-up, or came across as somehow superior. Hell, Reagan "beat" Carter only because he didn't swallow his own tongue and then step from the stage saying "I should have never been born, why would anyone vote for me over that man?" Even if he had, the media would have reported that he had won.

Biden can school her up and down the stage for two hours on issues, experience, Iraq, and everything else, and all the media will report is one pseudo-righteously indignant comment Palin made accusing (falsely) Biden of condescending towards women.

It's not Palin that Biden has to beat in a debate. It's the media.

[Stop Cornyn]

21. bingo!

[melody]

24. Yeah, that's true -- it's all over -- what were we thinking of being optimistic?

Silly us.

[jobycom]

26. Well, you can be pessimistic if you want, I guess.

I choose to be optimistic, but I'm not going to base our chances over some silly giddy glee that our guys are just so superior to theirs that the voters can't help but see it. The voters rarely see it. We have to win the old-fashioned way, by earning votes rather than gloating about our own superiority.

Some people need to learn the difference between sobriety and pessimism, or between optimism and delusion. We can win, we should win, but we won't win by expecting the media to play fair.

[melody]

28. No, my point is the right-wing trolls here with negative posts

It's the #1 most effective way of discouraging liberals. They found that out long ago.

Whenever I see one, I just agree with it because arguing points in such cases is useless.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

22. Joe's smart enough and experienced enough

to completely destroy and upstage her while smiling all the while and not condescending to her, however richly that might be deserved. Joe is a pro's pro. That's why Barack picked him in the first place.

[melody]

23. I believe we have a preview

Or something close ...

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[NotThisTime]

27. The conservatives are saying she is TOUGH and she will wipe the floor with him, UH, I think NOT!!!

[greguganus]

29. She can always fake labor if it gets too tough for her. n/t

[monmouth]

31. I'm thinking she'll be "Harrieted" by then and replaced....n/t

[jakem]

she will win the debate, because she will not completely fuck it up,

it is the GW standard of low expectation.

[slackmaster]

32. I'm looking forward to that

:hi:

[Jennicut]

33. "Tough" does not equal smart. She can shoot a gun but could she meet with world leaders?

She would be very out of her element and I doubt she could have any influence to shape foreign policy. Joe just has to take her down on the facts and if she can't handle it then she needs to go back to suing about Polar Bears being on the endangered list.