Her water didn't break....

[busymom]

Just fyi...and WHY oh WHY do some of you force me into a position to defend the republican vp candidate? can we not stick to politics?

Her water did not break. She had a leak of amniotic fluid but it was not a rupture of the membranes (I did with baby #5 too, btw...) She talked with her doctor and together they decided on the course of action. She was not in labor on the flight home...she had some mild contractions...

And for the mommy haters...

She took the baby to work with her...and time off to be with the baby for all necessary appointments.

http://community.adn.com/adn/node/121858

[Unsane]

1. mommy haters? please

And if she lied about being pregnant in order to cover up her underage daughter's pregnancy, it NEEDS to come out.

[sfam]

28. Why, exactly? Why do we want this to come out?

Is gathering dirt for dirt's sake so attractive? Do we really want the rest of the campaign to be dominated by a story such as this. Tell me - what does this do to Obama's mandate for change if everyone decides he was able to win by slime diggers finding something juicy about McCain's VP?

Yeah, he wins, but doesn't really have a mandate, as he won the same old same old way.

[MichiganVote]

2. No thanks. I like the other story better.

[GreenPartyVoter]

3. I had considered that possibility. I knew a woman whose water almost completely leaked away. They

put her on antibiotics, sewed her cervix shut and managed to keep the baby in there another month.

[AlCzervik]

4. i hate this story, i want to win but this line of attack is something we don't need to do

just like we didn't those stupid keys.

[AuntPatsy]

5. Oh please, mine was the same a leak and one and half hours later

after the leak began I gave birth, NO doctor in his right mind would allow a woman to give birth in such circumstances..your defense is weak as is her lie

[Kittycat]

10. Spot On!

After 6.5mo in the NICU, you meet alot of women in all sorts of circumstances. If Ms. Palin really cared as much as she pushes - she would have checked in to the nearest hospital, equipped at assessing the situation at hand.

Also, the news report I read stated that her water broke. http://www.ktuu.com/global/story.asp?s=8194634

[AuntPatsy]

20. exactly

[trudyco]

6. Well that's a little better but I would think the Doc would want

somebody local to look at her. It still seems foolish to be off in TX when you are 8 months pregnant and a high risk pregnancy. Even with regular pregnancies they don't want you flying on commercial flights that far along.

To me it still shows a real lack of judgment and concern for her unborn child (and herself). Is she that reckless in other aspects of her life???

[CoffeeCat]

8. She did return to work...

...three days after having that baby.

And someone please tell me how in the world you take your newborn infant
to work with you? How exactly does that work?

[onenote]

38. well, when your office is in your home (the gov's mansion)

and you've cut back your schedule, I imagine its not very hard at all.

[busymom]

12. well...

not to be crass, but if she had aborted that unborn child because it had Downs, a lot of people would be applauding that.

Pregnancy #5 is a lot diff. than pregnancy #1 or 2... it was her choice.

Good grief. I'm starting to feel so pissed off about constantly having to defend her as a woman and a mom that I'm really losing my feelings of allegiance to this place.

Lets just talk politics for God's sake.

[Nine]

27. "if she had aborted that unborn child because it had Downs, a lot of people would be applauding"

Are you KIDDING? I'm pro-choice, not pro-abortion. I think it's the best option is many circumstances, and I would certainly respect her decision had she decided to abort, but we pro-choicers don't go around rooting women on to have abortions. And we certainly don't advocate deliberately or recklessly endangering babies during childbirth.

[w8liftinglady]

7. I love mommies...I AM a mommie

My third child was born exactly one hour after I "Leaked"The nurse said ...there's no way your in labor,you're smiling too much(joking)..she checked me and I was fully effaced.MY doctor warned me I might have a rapid labor as it was my third,and to stay close to town...she was right(and my baby was normal)the nurse didn't even want me going to the bathroom after she checked me :)

[Nine]

9. How exactly does amniotic fluid leak with no membrane rupture? (nt)

[busymom]

13. Mine did.

[AlCzervik]

15. you do understand you aren't the mother here correct? You should stop with the

Mommie hater" thing, it makes you no better than the people you criticize.

[Nine]

19. I think you're wrong. And so does Dr. Spock.

http://www.drspock.com/article/0,1510,6128,00.html

Amniotic fluid leaking/trickling/gushing = water breaking = ruptured membrane

Find me any source that differentiates leaking amniotic fluid with breaking your water.

[JVS]

11. "WHY do some of you force me into a position to defend the republican vp candidate?"

What do you mean by that? Nobody's forcing you. Why do you do it?

[AlCzervik]

14. i liked the "Mommie haters" touch myself, i guess she the op thinks she's the only Mom

that posts here.

i still don't like this story being used as an attack, she's unqualified and i think that'll be the story, but that's just me.

[beachmom]

16. Delete.

[Barack_America]

17. Sorry, but this doctor disagrees...

EARLY ARRIVAL

Palin was in Texas last week for an energy conference of the National Governors Association when she experienced signs of early labor. She wasn't due for another month.

Early Thursday -- she thinks it was around 4 a.m. Texas time -- she consulted with her doctor, family physician Cathy Baldwin-Johnson, who is based in the Valley and has delivered lots of babies, including Piper, Palin's 7-year-old.

Palin said she felt fine but had leaked amniotic fluid and also felt some contractions that seemed different from the false labor she had been having for months.

"I said I am going to stay for the day. I have a speech I was determined to give," Palin said. She gave the luncheon keynote address for the energy conference.

Palin kept in close contact with Baldwin-Johnson. The contractions slowed to one or two an hour, "which is not active labor," the doctor said.

"Things were already settling down when she talked to me," Baldwin-Johnson said. Palin did not ask for a medical OK to fly, the doctor said.

"I don't think it was unreasonable for her to continue to travel back," Baldwin-Johnson said.

So the Palins flew on Alaska Airlines from Dallas to Anchorage, stopping in Seattle and checking with the doctor along the way.

"I am not a glutton for pain and punishment. I would have never wanted to travel had I been fully engaged in labor," Palin said. After four kids, the governor said, she knew what labor felt like, and she wasn't in labor.

Still, a Sacramento, Calif., obstetrician who is active in the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, said when a pregnant woman's water breaks, she should go right to the hospital because of the risk of infection. That's true even if the amniotic fluid simply leaks out, said Dr. Laurie Gregg.

"To us, leaking and broken, we are talking the same thing. We are talking doctor-speak," Gregg said.

Some airlines have policies against pregnant women onboard during the last four weeks of pregnancy, and the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists advises against flying after 36 weeks.

This was going to be Palin's last flight anyway, her doctor said.

Alaska Airlines has no such rule and leaves the decision to the woman and her doctor, said spokeswoman Caroline Boren. Palin was very pleasant to the gate agents and flight attendants, as always, Boren said.

"The stage of her pregnancy was not apparent by observation. She did not show any signs of distress," Boren said.

Palin never got big with this pregnancy. She said she didn't try to hide it but didn't feel a need to alert the airline, either.

They landed in Anchorage around 10:30 p.m. Thursday and an hour later were at the Mat-Su Regional Medical Center in Wasilla.

Baldwin-Johnson said she had to induce labor, and the baby didn't come until 6:30 a.m. Friday.


More:
http://www.adn.com/626/story/382864.html

[busymom]

18. So her ob sucked and gave her bad advice? LOL

[Barack_America]

22. I don't believe that physician was her OB...

And it sounds like the physician she was speaking with was a family doctor. Also if you read carefully, it says the physician did not clear her to fly.

[Fleshdancer]

21. Did your leak occur a month before the due date?

and if so, would you have boarded a plane for 7 hours?

I had the leak issue too but this situation is still ridiculous due to her age, the timing, and the flight.

[busymom]

26. No..but it wasn't considered a rupture of the membranes either...

and it preceeded the delivery by several days.

Would I, personally have boarded a plane? No.

That being said, I respect her right to do so...just as I, personally would not have an abortion, but support the right of another woman to make the choices over her own reproductive life and health.

[tigereye]

23. yeah I can't believe this is such a big issue

there are scads of other issues to focus on.

[thewiseguy]

24. Wish you were as enthusiastic defending Obama

[JVS]

25. Some doubt if she had any water of her own to have break or leak

[Doremus]

29. oh the drama

Super mommy, at great personal sacrifice, forced to defeat mommy haters everywhere. :eyes:

Good grief.

[thewiseguy]

30. Busymom wrote before that she would not vote for Obama

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5398089&mesg_id=5398089

So are you planning to vote for Obama? Or instead defend rethugs on DU?

[AlCzervik]

31. stop, she's the only Mommie on du you know! Stop being a "Mommie hater"

[Ichingcarpenter]

33. I want my Mommie!

You guys scare me!!!!!

[Kittycat]

35. I should tell my kids that. Even mommy-haters need a break now and then.

[Left Is Write]

32. In light of the post you linked, why is busymom still here?

This website is for those who support the Democratic nominee.

[busymom]

37. That link was to a thread that happened here during the oh-so-bitter

primary season where a lot of hate was tossed around by a lot of people..not just me. I found myself responding in anger and disbelief at some point...and I came out later and said that I would of course support the democratic nominee...and I have stood by that. Clearly, some people here have enough time on their hands to go back and cherry pick posts.

There are some really good sarcastic ones there too where I tried to mirror the nasty things being said about Hillary Clinton. Have a field day with it. LOL

[Hutzpa]

34. You have been busy defending her today

my God, whats up with that...:shrug:



:hide:

[busymom]

36. I know...it's freaking me out...I'm not defending her though, I am defending

ME...and other women and moms who have to make hard choices.

Look...I have had to make hard choices as a woman and mother...I had to give up my own career and many of my own aspirations because my husband's job became too demanding for me to be able to continue to meet the needs of my children and balance my professional responsibilities. It was disappointing. Since then, I have worked very hard to get my own career going again and to balance everything, but as a woman, I am constantly hitting a wall. Either I'm too "stupid to do anything else" because I'm a sahm, a "bad mom" for returning to work full-time or "not dedicated enough as a woman or a mother" for working part-time. The worst offenders are also women. It is infuriating.

I'm sick and tired of working just as hard as men...even harder sometimes...only to not be taken as seriously because I took my preschooler with me to work or had to call in to work because my child was sick and my husband couldn't take off.

Being a mom is the most challenging job that I have ever had, but for reasons that I never saw coming...the JUDGMENT is unbearable. There is always someone out there to criticize.

I'm tired of women not supporting women. I'm tired of society only giving lip-service to the importance of motherhood. I have had it with people talking about equality and women being as good as men..having the same rights as men...only to tear them down when they exercise those rights.

I can't stand by these kinds of discussions anymore without speaking up even if it does put me in the awkward position of defending the behavior of the candidate from the other team.