Wait just a second...Palin is Assembly of God?

[Seen the light]

http://www.alaskaag.org/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=34

Are you seriously fucking kidding me? She's a speaking in tongues John Ashcroft type?

Let me tell you, I attended AG churches for the first 20 or so years of my life. The things they have in common are downright frightening: vitriolic hatred of the GLBT community, prayer services lasting for hours where the preachers want the attendants to lay prostrate on the floor...just crazy stuff.

I hope someone does some digging into her specific church to see what interesting things they have done there in the past. If Jeremiah Wright was fair game, so is Palin's crazy fundy church.

[MichiganVote]

1. They fuck like steers tho'.

[billyoc]

7. I'll volunteer to go investigate.

:hide:

[MichiganVote]

15. :) You do that. Turn your pic's into the national enquirer.

[Spider Jerusalem]

40. Does that mean they don't fuck?

Steers are castrated.

[MichiganVote]

47. :) They are? Well like rabbits then.

[mcctatas]

42. Wait, so they aren't anti-gay?

because if all they have are steers, who's the fuckee?

[MichiganVote]

48. I've been corrected. :) A rancher I'm not.

[sfam]

2. She sings "Soar like an eagle" really good too!!!

[mzmolly]

3. Yiiiiiiiikes.

:scared:

[GreenPartyVoter]

4. Yes, she is

[yardwork]

5. This is really terrifying to me. I see the Republicans making a move toward The Handmaid's Tale.

[Kittycat]

6. I was taught all about Gay 'fisting' in Bible class at an AG SCHOOL

at the ripe age of 14. Not sunday school mind you - I mean real High School. We had no sex ed, but the pastor had no problem telling us about gay sex, in detail. Followed by playing records backwards, and clips of Geraldo & Satanists. I hate that fat, disgusting slob to this day.

[cliffordu]

31. I learned about

murdering minorities with a hawksbill knife in an AG church, In a sunday school class.

[fascisthunter]

8. Well, Well, Well.... we have a real fruity nut bag

with lot's of money behind her, I'm sure. Sorry right wingers, but your extremist crazy hayday is about to come to an end. And you will get to see how America reacts to nut cases like yourselves. Welcome to reality..... deal with it however you chose.

[rwheeler31]

9. Oh my How many crazy people live in Alaska? That church is

nuts.

[TwilightGardener]

10. I knew A of G folks as a teenager. Wackadoodles. Sorry, God doesn't want

you to flop on the floor and go "Flllbtthphtyarglflargl" or whatever. Or maybe God finds it amusing, I don't know.

[anigbrowl]

26. Trust me, it's *endlessly* amusing.

And really, it's harmless. After a long day of disillusioning suicide bombers and watching people being mean to each other, watching Americans spouting gibberish as they roll on the floor gives me confidence that you'll muddle through in the end.

[Seen the light]

11. More

The opening night banquet of the 2008 Alaska District
Council was honored to have Governor Sarah Palin
address the delegates and guests. Governor Palin spoke of
her appreciation for the Assemblies of God and requested
that the Council pray for both her and the State of Alaska.
Superintendent Ted Boatsman, who was Palin’s junior high
pastor at Wasilla Assembly of God, along with Pastor
Mike Rose of Juneau Christian Center, where Palin presently attends church when in Juneau,
laid hands on the Governor and led the Council in prayer.
Palin, who was elected Governor in 2007, is Alaska’s youngest governor and
the first female governor of the state. She just recently gave birth to her fifth
child, Trig. Palin spoke of the faith challenge she faced when learning that
Trig would be a Downs Syndrome child. However, she and her husband, Todd,
believe that every child is a gift of God, deserving of life, and that God was
asking them to accept His will for their lives.
The Alaska District Council believes that the State of Alaska is blessed to have
a woman of faith and courage as Governor. ~Submitted by Lattis Campbell

[Seen the light]

14. Her church's website is here

http://jccalaska.com/

It seems...interesting.

[farmboxer]

12. thinks humans used to ride on dinosaurs w/saddles. Talking snakes

wants creationism taught in schools, is against birth control, not to mention all the other crap!

[mitchum]

13. But how can she speak in tongues when her tongue is engaged with Big Oil members?

[Beregond2]

16. I had a neighbor when I was a kid who was AG.

They had a contest to see which kid could bring in the most friends to be "saved." He stood to win a bike, so I said OK.

Now I was raised Lutheran, so imagine my surprise when the hymns were accompanied by the minister playing a saw! Then we were herded up front for the laying on of hands, while old women spoke in tongues, foamed at the mouth and writhed on the floor. It was like a bad production of Macbeth. I thought the whole thing was hilarious, but one boy with us was terrified, and when his parents found out what went on, they threatened to sue the church.

They are Pentecostal nut-jobs, too far-out for most Evangelicals even. The thought of one of them anywhere near the reins of power is horrifying.

[tularetom]

17. Ain't that the group that goes around mutilatin' squirrels?

Obscure Seinfeld reference.

[az chela]

18. their wedding vows are so primitive

the woman has to obey the husband and all the old garbage that women were subjected to

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

35. Then shouldn't her husband be fair game as well?

Wonder if he was vetted anymore than she was?! :shrug:

[Arugula Latte]

19. Ooooh, but we're not supposed to dis "Faith"

Everything else is on the table, but if someone believes any crazyass mythology, no matter how harmful or batshit nutzoid, we're supposed to shut up and "respect" their beliefs, according to some of the religious tsk-tsk-tskers here on DU.

[goodgd_yall]

21. The Rev. Wright escapade changed the rules. n/t

[fascisthunter]

22. fuck that.... Their psychosis is fair game... this isn't faith

these people need to be in padded rooms.

[Prophet 451]

28. Hey, mainstream faith is fine

I'm a man of faith and if she was some mainstream Christian or one of the nicer minority sects (Quaker, say), there'd be no problem at all but she isn't. She's a fanatical fundie from a very extreme church. She's Hagee in a skirt.

[MUAD_DIB]

29. Fuck the religious tsk tskers. If they can't stand free speech then they

can go to hell.

[POAS]

61. tsk...tsk

:spank:

[goodgd_yall]

20. I'm all for someone videotaping services at her church

and having it spread like wildfire just like thd Rev. Wright videos did.

[libnnc]

23. Word.

[Turn CO Blue]

24. your reaction to this news is making me laugh out loud

for some reason. I've been shaking my head all day.

I called the Dear Hubby today:

Me: This Palin woman is Assembly of God
DH: You're shitting me.
Me: Alas, nope. Tongue-speaking, fainting in the spirit, Assembly of God
DH: No way
Me: And she's a creationist too. Not ID. Creationism.
DH: Dinosaurs and man together.
Me: Yep
DH: Can these people get any dumber?
Me: I didn't think so, but YES THEY CAN!

[LeftyMom]

25. I posted some more about her church, their history and beliefs earlier today

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6820124

Honestly, I don't want somebody who thinks rolling around on the church floor screaming gibberish like Grandpa Simpson is a valid form of expression anywhere near the reins of power.

[libnnc]

32. boom shaka-laka-baby

praise jeebus and pass the holy Crisco

:crazy:

How pissed are the runner-ups right about now?

[Gabi Hayes]

27. kos

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/29/163234/559/495/579213

[Seen the light]

30. GREAT link

Quite scary.

[Gabi Hayes]

36. ya think? check this:

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[Seen the light]

37. She's a prettier John Ashcroft without his experience basically

Scary.

[Ichingcarpenter]

39. Mommy hater

Thanks

[Ichingcarpenter]

34. Put some of the story up here.... great link

There are quite a number of extremely troubling links between Sarah Palin and neopentecostal dominionists--enough that, in truth, she may be ultimately as much of a "dream candidate" for the dominionist movement as Mike Huckabee was. Even worse, she's running in a manner that has been frighteningly successful for dominionist groups since the early 80's--specifically, as a "stealth candidate".

Palin's Assemblies linkage

The first link in and of itself is a doozy--and one of the most damning indeed. No less than the official newsletter of the Assemblies of God of Alaska promotes her proudly as one of the denomination's own, and she was actually feted at an official function of the Assemblies' Alaska District as recently as this year:

The opening night banquet of the 2008 Alaska District Council was honored to have Governor Sarah Palin address the delegates and guests. Governor Palin spoke of her appreciation for the Assemblies of God and requested that the Council pray for both her and the State of Alaska. Superintendent Ted Boatsman, who was Palin’s junior high pastor at Wasilla Assembly of God, along with Pastor Mike Rose of Juneau Christian Center, where Palin presently attends church when in Juneau, laid hands on the Governor and led the Council in prayer.

Palin, who was elected Governor in 2007, is Alaska’s youngest governor and the first female governor of the state. She just recently gave birth to her fifth child, Trig. Palin spoke of the faith challenge she faced when learning that Trig would be a Downs Syndrome child. However, she and her husband, Todd, believe that every child is a gift of God, deserving of life, and that God was asking them to accept His will for their lives. The Alaska District Council believes that the State of Alaska is blessed to have a woman of faith and courage as Governor.

A look at the home website of Palin's church tends to be revealing. Among other things, a particular Assemblies buzzword associated frequently with Hillsong A/G and New Zealand Assemblies churches shows up ("Destiny", here, is a buzzword for "Joel's Army", and is being preferred even as the phrase "Joel's Army" is getting enough negative spin that even the Assemblies is now having to do some rather massive spin control); cell churches are promoted (of the same sort that are linked to short-term and longterm psychological damage and are among the most coercive tactics ever documented in spiritually abusive groups). The church, like a number of other large Assemblies churches, is the center of a dominionist broadcast TV center whose programming is carried across multiple channels in Alaska.

In a trend that has been recently documented by no less than Southern Poverty Law Center (in its recent report on the Joel's Army movement), the church operates a Seven Project-esque targeted recruitment campaign aiming at teens (this is common across the Assemblies and across "Joel's Army" groups in general; fully a third of the documented national-level front groups operated by the Assemblies target teens).

[greenvpi]

33. The fact that she didn't have an abortion

is proof she is a crazy religious nut. Any sane, thinking person would have done the right thing.

[Arkansas Granny]

51. I won't criticize her for that. Being pro-choice, I can support her decision even if it's

not the one that I might have made in the same situation.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

53. But I will criticize her for FORCING all women to make the same choice. nt

[Arkansas Granny]

57. That deserves criticism as it is definitely not choice.

[Chovexani]

38. AG is one step away from snake handlin

Seriously... :scared:

[farmboxer]

41. But she thinks humans used to ride dinosaurs w/ saddles

believes in talking snakes, is against birth control, etc. Perhaps she believe that McCain used to ride those dinosaurs?

[trashcanistanista]

43. But can Biden get her to talk about it on national TV?

If so, it is over. The fundies will jump ship or stay home.

[eshfemme]

44. Dear God and I thought the Mormon thing that Romney had was bad.

We need a mole to sneak out some video of her pastor and crap because I find stuff like this more dangerous than anything WRight might have said.

[Raine]

45. Some talking heads said she was a Catholic

I guess that was just BS.

[Ichingcarpenter]

46. And at the same time said she was Mormon

Talk about a spin!

[mucifer]

49. Angry white preachers are great. It's the angry black preachers we need to be scared of.

Jeez, don't you know anything?

:sarcasm:

[WinkyDink]

50. Excuse me, but WTH AM I READING HERE? Since when is a religion mocked here?

[nickgutierrez]

56. Since the views of a religion proved themselves worthy of mockery. n/t

[mnhtnbb]

59. Read the kos link upthread # 27

She's a dominionist. These folks are very scary. She's actively promoted teaching creationism in public schools. If we think we have anti-science from the Bushies now, this woman will do everything possible
to insure we take a turn back into the dark ages.

[TexasObserver]

52. They're very backward churches. Anti homosexual, anti rock & roll, too.

Many of them actually tell teens they'd rather they listen to regular country western music than Christian rock. Sounds crazy, but I know it's true because I have relatives involved in that religion.

The men run the churches, and the women don't cut their hair. Notice how long Palin's hair is. That big bun is a characteristic of Assembly of God. They're only a couple of clicks off those polygamist freaks.

[kwolf68]

54. Country music...

Music about getting drunk, getting stoned, cheating on your women?

If she's against Rock N Roll then who cares....rock n roll is against her too.

[Danger Mouse]

55. Yeah, she's a fundienut.

[Joanne98]

58. This is a nightmare.

[Joanne98]

60. Here's a link to her church..

http://wasillabible.org/

[Seen the light]

62. Some interesting nuggets from that church's site:

http://wasillabible.org/statement%20of%20faith.htm
http://wasillabible.org/corecommitments.htm

[Seen the light]

63. Wow, the very first sermon found there is about "Jews for Jesus"

http://www.wasillabible.org/sermon_files/2008_Transcripts/The%20Jerusalem%20Dilemma.doc

Just preached there last week.

I don't think she's gone to this church since she took over as governor, but this is very important for DU to look over anyway. Gives an insight into her thinking because all AG churches are into this same Jews for Jesus stuff.

[Seen the light]

64. There's Left Behind, Rapture Ready stuff on there also

All preached by this Larry Kroon guy who Palin listened to for many years.