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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:11 AM
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My impressions of the Palin Pick (late to the party).
I missed today's activity because I was traveling, but I saw the Palin rollout on TV.

It appears to be the politics equivalent of a hockey team, behind in the final minute, pulling their goalie to have more offensive players. A Hail Mary, a desperate but perhaps necessary gamble. The usual result is you lose by even more because of the other team scoring on an empty net. Desperate gambles sometimes work in sports, but hardly ever.

It's not just Palin's resume. The overall impression she made was of someone with not gravitas whatsoever, a perky housewife, the high school cheerleader running for student council. Her voice was a cross between a "Fargo" stereotype of a Minnesota housewife or Catherine O'Hara's portrayal of Joey Heatherton on SCTV (for you oldsters).

This wasn't helped by the content of the rollout either. She ate up much of the time talking about her husband's snow machine racing (woohoo), her kids, PTA etc. like she was running for a local school board. She has zero foreign policy experience, but they could have come up with SOMETHING much better for her to say, even in 6 hours time, you'd think, in support of her candidacy to be the POSSIBLE PRESIDENT OF THE FUCKING UNITED STATES. It really has made me think that this decision was made just hours before the rollout. Perhaps a panicky McCain changed his mind on Romney or Pawlenty after the Dem convention and decided to go Hail Mary. Perhaps one or more of the previous choices demurred not wanting to go down with the ship, leaving McCain in the lurch at the 11th hour.

The "18 million cracks" shout out removed any possible doubt that the primary purpose of the pick was to attempt to poach Hillary voters, women, and keep the PUMA bullshit alive.

The most concrete benefit to McCain will be to lock up Alaska's 3 electoral votes.

It will help McCain with the fundies, due to the pro-life, carried a Down's baby, "walk the walk" factor.

It will poach a few bitter Clinton holdouts. After the convention, I suspect anyone who would vote for McCain based on him picking a pro-life fundie woman would likely have done so anyway, either out of hateful spite against Obama, or because they were basically a Republican anyway, and would use whatever reason handy to justify doing so. Those votes were likely unreachable anyway. I think, and certainly hope, that these numbers won't come anywhere near even the small percentages he might need to tip any states.

It seems the whole engine driving the McCain campaign is to drive the TV narrative for the next 48 hours or so. This move, because it's such a LOL shocker, will largely succeed in taking Obama's triumphal speech off the news. But the damage it does to McCain's credibility among a lot of Republican voters is far worse. Love Biden or hate his flaws, he's a very plausible and solid pick. Obama did a great job with his first important executive decision. McCain went for the comedy option.

I've heard significant buzz from Republicans, including some of the people I was sitting around the airport watching CNN with today, basically saying :wtf: Many clearly see it as a desperate flail.

Even the lame-ass cable media is somewhat doing their jobs. After the first few hours of simply reading the McCain campaign press releases, even on CNN I heard Republican surrogates like smarmy-ass Lindsey Graham get grilled by Wolf Blitzer (!) about what foreign policy credentials Palin had to assume CINC duties, which they had no answer for. It is being portrayed as a desperate gamble. The term Hail Mary is being used. It is being compared to the Ferraro pick, in my opinion, rather appropriately.

Either the Republicans are starting to give up seriously contesting this race and don't want to damage any of their real prospects, or it's just a crazy desperate shot in the dark, or both.

Even with several years more experience, Palin just doesn't come across as presidential material to me. Not remotely.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:14 AM
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1. Or they're not even worried because the cheat is already in.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:15 AM
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2. Great post. Thanks for your input.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:16 AM
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3. Nice analysis.
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greenvpi Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:18 AM
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4. Proof of how much Hillary has damaged The Party.
Yes, absolute proof. Because she has caused so many problems, so many women are mad at the people that are looking after them(like the Repukes are, ha!) that McCain knows many of these mad women will vote against The Party. Hillary has caused a serious problem.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:21 AM
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6. Don't pull a muscle reaching there. n/t
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:21 AM
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7. LOL. So it's Hillary's fault...again? n/t
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DB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:26 AM
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9. Way to buy into the MSM bullshit.......
Hillary drawing 18 million to the primaries, Hillary giving a kick ass speech in support of Obama and Bill giving one almost as good, real bad for the party. Not.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:41 AM
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12. um no
go away
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:54 AM
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15. No way, the primary is over and we have Sarah Palin to defeat now.
Let's not engage in silly bickering over Hillary, who is, by the way... MILES apart, INFINITELY qualified over this sorry excuse for a VP candidate, and I wasn't even a Hillary supporter.

:mad:
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:20 AM
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5. McCain took his first important executive decision and put party over America
In his own words he said one of the prime reasons he picked her was because she's the kind of person he wants to be the future of his party.

Selecting the vice president shouldn't be about what's best for the Republican party, it's about what's best for America!

No right thinking American can believe it would be good to have her assume the duties of the Presidency.
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:24 AM
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8. I am concerned about he Fundie control of the party, and as excuse for theft.
In 2004, yes they registered more exurbans, megachurches, but he anomalies and evidence, time that these shifts happened, it was not the fundies. Just a hyped rationale as cover.

I hope the manipulative polls don't skew like this is real. I can see them stifling the bounce from Obama's speech.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:34 AM
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10. Palin convinces me that McSame knows he's not going to win
Much like Walter Mondale in 1984, he's just picking a token candidate (a woman) to make history...because he knows he's going to lose, and his VP pick is all he's going to be remembered for.

Put a fork in him, because he's done!
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:54 AM
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16. That's exactly my thinking as well.
:thumbsup:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:35 AM
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11. Hey you!
Good to see you. :hi:

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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:51 AM
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14. Heeyyyyy!
You too.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:43 AM
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13. I know I m having trouble wrsaping my head around it
it seems as though for any plus she might bring there as many if not more minuses.

It just makes no sense.
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:57 AM
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17. K & R
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