"Leave Palin Alone!!!"

[TheDonkey]

Why are so many on DU bending over backwards to "protect" Palin from any attacks? Is this bizarro world?

This woman is an extremist, unqualified, and insulting to Americans. John McCain made a horrendous pick and they both need to be roughed up.

[dkf]

1. This is the Britney Spears brigade.

[TheWebHead]

2. amen

if this place doesn't talk about the dirt, no one else will. At least I'm not sending out chain mails about Palin's baby-gate

[TwilightGardener]

3. She's a very snotty, catty, airheaded woman. I have no idea why anyone would defend her.

[zb1965]

6. She is also HOOKEY MUM...

They called her BARACUDA in the school. She was very agressive just like that robot McShame...

[TwilightGardener]

10. Looks get you pretty far in this world. A pretty face, a small pond

in which you can be a big fish, and a BA in journalism can win you the Presidency once the melanoma takes the old coot out.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

4. The choice of Palin is insulting and the DU defenders of Palin are enablers...

for a theocratic woman who is the polar opposite of Hillary.

[TexasObserver]

5. some are professional hand wringers

who get paid by the wince

[Solomon]

14. LOL I've never seen so many handwringers as with Obama's

candidacy. No matter what he does, it's not good enough. If we attack, we're wrong, if we don;t attack we're wrong.

I hope she falls flat on her face.

[TexasObserver]

27. yeah, we catch negative press daily, but who are these folks concerned about?

PALIN.

Anyone who can't understand why we are going after her really does need to stop posting. They simply don't get the whole "election" thing.

[whatchamacallit]

Yeah, but she's a woman

so you must stop.

:crazy:

[crispini]

7. Let's attack her on her lack of experience and on the issues

Attacking her because of her personal choices, i.e. "You've got five kids and a special needs child, so you can't take the tough jobs," well, this smacks an awful lot of the kind of patriarchal bullshit normally found on free republic.

[TwilightGardener]

15. You know, she insists on having control over MY womb, why can't

I comment on what goes on with hers?

[crispini]

19. haha, well, that's a fun point. :) nt

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

25. AWESOME post!

:thumbsup:

[cliffordu]

30. DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNAH!!!!!! Exactly.

[TheDonkey]

49. lol

touche!

[musette_sf]

57. yep, that's it in a nutshell.

[CreekDog]

16. i think that's far from the typical response here

you shouldn't characterize it that way.

[Martinucho]

22. the "two wrongs make a right" response

I understand what you are trying to say.

[CreekDog]

32. you don't understand anything because what in my statement said those words?

:eyes:

[crispini]

23. I've seen dozens of responses ...

typically, more veiled and nuanced than that, typical CONCERN ... but that's what they boil down to.

[CreekDog]

dozens that don't even come out and say what you suggest represents all of us

ridiculous.

look the thousands of very sane and rational people here don't have to bear the responsibility of the few moron knuckelheads that post here from time to time.

[crispini]

50. OP is also suggesting that a few people represent all of us. ;) nt

[gblady]

8. I don't understand it either...

equal rights, equal treatment and all.

[still_one]

9. I am not sure what you are referring to. You are right, palin is an extremist

unqualifed, and an insult to Americans

I haven't seen any say that palin should NOT be attacked on that basis, or on the issues

[trueblue2007]

11. Don't you DARE TELL ME what to think about a potential candidate.

Don't you DARE TELL ME what to think about a potential candidate.

Stop treating Ms. Palin with kid gloves just because she is THE SAME GENDER AS I AM!!!

I'm a woman and I question her ability to serve.

Why don't you go watch the movie THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT again to see how we should be treating candidates!

[LibDemAlways]

12. To "extremist, unqualified, and insulting" add

"batshit crazy." If true, the official story of the birth of her infant son indicates a woman with both a complete lack of judgment and a screw or two loose. If untrue, she's a liar and a fraud in her personal life. No way should this woman ever get closer to the WH than a public tour - and I'm not even sure she should be let through security for that.

[RDANGELO]

13. I'm not defending her, but I have give a reason to ingroe her.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6830522

[TheDonkey]

21. I don't agree

While I don't think Obama or Biden needs to be out there bashing her the Obama surrogates cannot pass-up this oppurtunity to showcase McCain's total lack of judgment by picking Palin and the heightened level of danger this ticket presents America.

[Martinucho]

17. It's not whether or not we should attack her, but how to attack her

I think the difference is clear.

[Life Long Dem]

18. Attacking like this makes us look bad

[Midlodemocrat]

26. Again, thank you for your concern.

:thumbsup:

[hlthe2b]

33. I think what really concerns poster#18

is the potential for viral spread of this to hurt McCain and his new sidekick.... I'd like to think I'm wrong, but when a male poster continually chastises the DU women for criticizing Palin, well, what can I think? Some overzealous misguided sense or chivalry? or......???

[Midlodemocrat]

35. Here's what I think.

Troll. Not you. Look up. Concern troll.

[Mist]

38. That's the flip side of the coin of those who just couldn't understand why ALL women

weren't voting for HRC. And yes, it's patronizing as hell. Why shouldn't Palin be criticized as much as any candidate for office?

[Life Long Dem]

45. It could have been men attacking and I would have said men

[ruggerson]

20. "break the bitch" is the kind of remark I've seen people object to

I'm all for attacking her for being completely unqualified, a demonstration of McCain's lack of judgement and a far rightwing nut.

I'm against attacking her by using insane, freeperish accusations that she pretended to have her daughter's baby and her doctor and the entire hospital are in on the conspiracy.

There is a difference between the two ways of attacking the woman's fitness to serve.

Surely you can see it.

[NJmaverick]

24. I think Texas Observer nailed it

here is what TO said:

Yes, there will always be "arrangers" among us, who constantly fret.
The arrangers compulsively try to arrange the words and thoughts of others. Their posts often begin with "you should be ashamed!"

No matter what the topic, they're most concerned with lecturing others here about having proper thoughts and ideas.

It's part of being a Democrat, having them around, but in a venue like this one, they have more ability to communicate than in real life, where almost everyone completely ignores everything they say.

[Bjorn Against]

28. I really think that some of the people who are telling us to leave Palin alone are trolls...

They know that Palin is a weakness for McCain and they don't want us to go after McCain's weaknesses, so they came up with some story about how if we attack Palin we are ignoring McCain. Of course when Palin is McCain's freaking running mate any attack on her is an attack on the McCain ticket. I think some good DUers have bought into the trolls attempts to get us off the subject of Palin, but I believe that this line of argument was most likely created by trolls.

[hlthe2b]

34. Yup.... I think you are right

[TexasObserver]

39. there are always GOP agents among us, some with long time accounts

They pop up to try to quell conversation in a direction they want to avoid.

[TheDonkey]

42. Seriously. I guess freeps trying to disrupt or freep-lites from that other forum

[ampad]

29. Quite a few are still

pissed that Hillary did not get picked. Look, it's usually the same ones that would yell sexism constantly throughout the primaries. There are a few who have not but most of them have. Half of them wouldn't think twice to attack Michelle Obama or to let a sexist comment made about Condi Rice and Coulter go without a comment.

[TwilightGardener]

31. Good point--a lot of these sexism handwringers never spoke a WORD in defense

of Michelle Obama.

[JeffR]

36. I'm sure she's an outstanding person

and I say she and McCain can both go straight to hell.

[dionysus]

46. DUzy!! oh wait...

:silly:

[L0oniX]

37. She's repuke ...screw her and her little dog too

[LeftishBrit]

40. No one that I've seen wants to 'protect her from any attacks'...

but some would rather not see her, and even more, her young daughter, subjected to *sexist* attacks. Not for her sake. Because it harms women in general.

Supposing that someone used racist terms to attack Condi Rice, or Gonzalez; or attacked Maggie Thatcher's past choices to pursue a political career as the mother of twins? However much one detests the individual and their party, there's the danger of harming women (or minorities) in general. Why not attack her for her very dangerous views and complete lack of any qualifications for the job?

[Bjorn Against]

44. Actually there are a few here that are telling people not to attack her at all

Here are a couple threads that essentially tell us to lay off all criticism of Palin:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6820571
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6830522

There were other threads as well. I agree that we should not be engaging in sexist attacks, but we need to go after Palin's lack of credentials and her scandals full force. This is a woman who admitted just last month that she doesn't even know what the VP does, she needs to be criticized harshly.

[Eurobabe]

41. She's unqualified, neo-conservvative and has no credentials

Why anyone on DU (except a troll) would be defending her is also beyond me.

[krabigirl]

43. Exactly. She's a fundie nutcase who wants to teach creationism in schools.

And would not allow women to get abortions if they were raped by their uncle. She can dish it out, she had better be prepared to take it. And BTW, women are always harder than men are on other women.

[stillcool]

47. Who will protect us from her?

[hamsterjill]

48. Agreed and seconded

She's the OPPONENT! Whether male or female.

[Evergreen Emerald]

51. I have not read anything that asks you to leave Palin alone.

I have seen posts about attacking Palin on the issues rather than on her gender.

If McCain had chosen a black person, you would not all resort to racism, would you? I hope not. Just like I hope you would stop the sexist CRAP. And attack her on the issues.

[AtomicKitten]

52. McBush just dove head-in into identity politics.

I will attack the opposition on issues and policy, and will not be brow-beaten with indiscriminate screeches of "unfair." Playing the Victim Card did not work in the primaries and will not work in the GE.

Palin is an atrociously irresponsible choice for VP, and that has nothing to do with her vagina and everything to do with her record.

[gShawn]

53. Airhead Barbie doll as VP

When I sent my die-hard Republican friend my satirical "Why I am Voting Republican" email,he replied as follows:

"If you vote for R. you can see the airhead Barbie doll as VP..."

It doesn't look like she is earning the respect of all of the party faithful.

I must admit the Moose lady is kinda cute at times, as long as she keeps her mouth shut.

[Pamela Troy]

54. Nobody is saying that. Is attacking her through her kid the ONLY criticism of her you can think of?

[liberalpress]

55. No one is saying no attacks

Just no prsonal attacks. Plenty of policy attacks on outdated anti-hunamity policies are more than welcome

[butterfly77]

56. She is a republiCON ..

so I say tear her ass up, they will do the same to us...

[Pamela Troy]

58. DUHHH... E-THI-CAL?? WHUT DAT???? SHE BAD!!! HULK SMASH!! SMASH BAD DAUGHTER TOO! DUUUHHHHH....