truthN08
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:50 AM
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The Palin pick was designed for Dems to jump on her to make women mad |
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Okay I'm a woman and a mother of 1 daughter.I'm in no way anti-women. I was never a Hillary supporter but yesterday I felt something "primal" for Hillary like how DARE Palin think she should could be VP when she's not qualified and use Hillarys "18 cracks" line. I can be emotional.
Well look at how many people have jumped to Palins defense even on THIS site. Palin was picked because they knew the dems would get mad and offended and pounce on her. They figure if they can make it seem like Palin is being picked on they think it will rally ALL women and that women will want to stick together because a fellow female,a mother is being "picked on" "made fun of" or talked down to.
I don't know exactly what happened with the Hillary thing in the primary but as soon as women started feeling like Hillary was being messed with by the press and whoever else they rallied to Hillary.
Rove and McCain are trying to do the same thing here. They are trying to get everyone all pissed off about this pick so people can call her out and then they can paint her as a victim and people love to protect a victim and that people will forget she isn't qualified they will just vote for this pretty mother of 5. If she cries and says how hard it is to run for office while being a mother to 5 the media will turn her into America's sweetheart and Obama will have a hard time getting coverage. This election is very short.
Obama and his campaign saw how for whatever reason women felt Hillary was getting a raw deal and came to her and they won't let that happen again. I don't think you will hear anything from Obama about Palin and he will just keep running against McCain. This election can NOT be about Palin. The focus has to stay on McCain.
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:53 AM
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1. keep the attacks against McSame |
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:55 AM
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2. The palin pick was a cynical outrageous pick that is an insult to women |
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Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 10:56 AM by still_one
It reveals how mccain and many republicans feel about women
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:55 AM
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I agree. This is still about McCain, and going after Palin is not a good idea for the reasons you stated. I have already seen diehard republicans getting upset over McCains choice of Palin, and some are even saying they will NOT vote for him now. They won't vote for Obama, but will simply stay home.
I think the Obama camp will stay away from Palin, and just keep on hammering McCain!
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Sat Aug-30-08 10:57 AM
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4. Yep--they are dangling her out there like a target, daring people to make |
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sexist criticisms, so that women will get upset and rally around her the way they did with Hillary. It's awful--the state of politics in this nation has gone into the toilet.
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Sat Aug-30-08 11:00 AM
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5. I agree keep the attacks about McCain and his disastrous policies. |
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Let biden take care of Palin during the debates.
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Sat Aug-30-08 11:01 AM
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6. I think their plan is backfriing because people are seeing Palin as a political ploy. |
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A lot more women are actually enraged not only because of Palin's speech, but because of her acceptance of using her gender to get ahead without having the qualifications.
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Sat Aug-30-08 11:02 AM
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7. whatever the reason, it was politically motivated and has nothing to do with "Country First" |
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McCain is putting politics and his career in front of what's best for America.
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Sat Aug-30-08 11:05 AM
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8. Agree, this is an ancillary strategy of the Repubs. We should ignore her. |
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And focus attacks on McCain and his jugdment for picking her.
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Sat Aug-30-08 11:11 AM
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9. I'm in general agreement; I also think there is a racial element. n/t |
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Sat Aug-30-08 11:15 AM
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Sat Aug-30-08 11:27 AM
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11. I agree w/part of your post - |
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I wasn't a HRC supporter, but I didn't appreciate Palin using the 18M cracks comment, and I now feel unless HRC comes up with a plan of action to discredit Palin, if the Repubs take the WH again, Palin will run for POTUS in 2012, and if she wins, that will be the nail in HRC's future POTUS coffin. JMO.
I agree with your comment about the ppl on this site running to Palin's defense, saying that not to attack her for being a former beauty queen, for being a mom, etc., BUT these same ppl justify their opinion based on "taking the high road." THAT won't win this election. Palin stopped funding to the 'bridge to nowhere', and the Dems are taking off the gloves and taking a detour from "taking the high road that LEADS to nowhere" in this election. Obama/Biden HAVE to do whatever it takes to win this election. Period. McInsane & Co. have clearly used Machiavellian tactics in this election, and they can't be allowed to get away with it unchallenged. Otherwise, we look weak which translates to not being able to effectively confront and deal with opponents on a global scale. JMO.
Since Palin is on tape accusing Hillary of whining during the primaries, and an opponent needing to know what she is getting herself into and what to expect, I hardly think she will whine. Of course, the media will do whatever w/the criticism of her.
Obama will have to focus on McCain, and Biden will have to focus on Palin - one heartbeat away from the Presidency.
The sad thing for me is that I have a family acquaintance who was undecided but leaning towards Obama, but he is now leaning towards McCain BECAUSE of Paulin. :cry:
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Sat Aug-30-08 11:34 AM
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13. I was a Hillary supporter |
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and this pick is a slap in the face to her supporters. Palin isn't worthy to breath the same air as Hillary.
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1Hippiechick
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Sat Aug-30-08 11:45 AM
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14. I agree w/you 100%! Shows how stoopid the Repugs truly think women are. n/t |
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Sat Aug-30-08 11:32 AM
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12. yes... back to McLame. Palin is a attempt to divide us and divert us from him. nt |
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Sat Aug-30-08 11:50 AM
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15. I am going to say this again, Rove had nothing to do with it ... |
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IMO, this pick is nothing more complicated than McCain being the lunatic he is.
I think Rove knew he REALLY wanted Lieberman, and knew that a Lieberman pick would have just caused the convention to cave in, and worked to block that pick. I think that is the only aspect about this that Rove had any "control" over. I think once he was able to manuver (sp) behind the scenes to block Lieberman, that McCain went COMPLETELY off the reservation on the Palin pick.
Whatever way the Rs and MSM SPIN this thing to protect both McCain and Palin, it was NOT planned in any way shape or form, it was just a sadly broken man making the kinds of decisions he makes.
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Sat Aug-30-08 11:54 AM
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17. I've been thinking this, too. |
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Rove, bastard that he is, usually makes decisions that make sense from his point of view. This Palin pick does not.
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Sat Aug-30-08 11:51 AM
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16. And they are mad at me because I told them to shut-up |
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Sat Aug-30-08 11:56 AM
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Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 11:58 AM by kwolf68
She is running for Vice President. If the heats too much get out the kitchen.
Democrats have proven time and again we respect women, we want them to have the same rights and privledges as anyone.
If this were 1919, people like Sarah Palin would be fighting against womens suffrage.
Democrats have no problem with women in positions of power. We damn neard nominated a women to be our Presidential candidate and 24 years ago (24 YEARS ago) we put a women on the national ticket. Welcome to the Party Republicans. How does 'feminism' taste to you now? Oh I am sure in 2036 they'll eventually get around to putting a black man on the ticket, and they'll challenge the Democrats that if you attack this black man you are racist.
Trouble is, it was US, the Democrats who fought for (and would eventually lose the entire South) black men (and women).
So in other words...if Democrats-who HAVE championed the plight of women and blacks-happen to trash a black or a women, it's ALWAYS because of inferior viewpoints and not because of the gender or race. We have PROVEN we don't care about race and gender, WE SUPPORT blacks and women. We fight for legislation freeing them. We have 'earned' the right to thus challenge them.
You Republicans are juxtaposing this sexist, masochistic primacy onto us Democrats because that's what YOU ARE. From the party where war is peace, ignorance is strength, and slavery is freedom comes the feminists are anit-women mantra.
I say bring that shit on. Challenge Sarah Palin's radical viewpoints and do it forcefully.
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Sat Aug-30-08 11:59 AM
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19. They can attack her if they do it right |
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But, yes, keep the focus on McSchmuck
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