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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:36 PM
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Now Video of "pregnant" Palin walking to work mid February
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 12:45 PM by TheWebHead
http://alaskapodshow.com/index.php/2008/02/20/my-visit-to-juneau-alaska/

he says happy belated birthday to her, so it was posted sometime between Feb 11 and when he posted it February 20th.. again no sign of pregnancy or mention of it.
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:46 PM
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1. if you are insinuating
that its her daughters baby, well, that's ridiculous for one, but even if it were true, who cares?

And how would you prove it?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:36 PM
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9. If Sara Palin wants to decide what's best for my body then don't I have the right
to question what she has done with hers?

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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:02 PM
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36. Great spin!
:rofl:

Also, it exposes her for lying on multiple occasions. It's always the cover-up, not the crime, that gets politicians in trouble.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:17 PM
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50. If Sara Palin wants to make this one of her few qualifications
we have the right to ask a few questions.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:46 PM
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25. She would be guilty of insurance fraud
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:10 PM
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37. Its not ridiculous
Its insurance fraud and a huge web of lies that are problematic for a Vice President.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:11 PM
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38. I would care because she lied - a big, bold lie. It is about her personal life, and that
is different to me than lying about government matters and, still, lying about your daughter having a baby and claiming it is your own is highly dysfunctional family behavior in this day and age.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:50 PM
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55. You mean like taking responsibilty for one's actions, being honest, having character. You know,
those small things that just might be important if a person where to be president. You are damn right it would be important.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:14 PM
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2. Coffee? nt
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:14 PM
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3. Another piece of evidence to question the pregnancy. Walking on wet, slippery streets in boots with
heels? C'mon. It's also the same jacket that she was photographed in on another date.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:35 PM
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8. right with all that, but was the bouncing up the stairs that did it. n/t
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:49 PM
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10. Supposedly she was 7 months pregnant in that video ?
I don't think so.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:26 PM
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16. OMG
someone wore the same jacket on 2 occasions? God Forbid.


We are all getting a little into way out land here, I think. There are enough easy questions to be asked that we really don't need to extend ourselves here.


Plus, its a pointless issue. Even if she did take her daughters child as her own, what difference would that make? All it does is humanize her to many, make her that much more the mother. Even if there were hard evidence, every Fundie is going to love it even more. All they will see is self sacrificial, plus being a good mother to the older daughter. And they will admire the anti choice aspect. And in what way does it hurt her, with who?

Better that she was oddly irresponsible flying from TX to AK with leakage. That turns her into a bit of a kook, at best.
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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:42 PM
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22. she lied. that is what people always go down for.
was she protecting her daughter or her political career and conservative image?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:52 PM
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:58 PM
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33. Oh dear sweet Jesus
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 02:59 PM by ampad
I'm not a religious person but that comment compelled me to call out to god. Let us all hope that is not the case.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:59 PM
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35. The plot thickens! n/t
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NobleCynic Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:59 PM
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34. No.No.No.No.
Being middle aged (40+) is a risk factor for downs syndrome. Knock it off.
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Martinucho Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:25 PM
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40. I don't see evidence of incest causing syndrome
In a list of the causes of Down Syndrome, this medical website says, "There are no known behavioral or environmental factors that cause Down syndrome."

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/down-syndrome/DS00182/DSECTION=causes
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:31 PM
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43. This is totally inappropriate & sickening
Before you start throwing around incest, perhaps think first.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:14 PM
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49. Republicans don't go down for lying
Its expected of them. And either way, the people who like her will see it as protecting her daughter, and the rest will see it as protecting her image. And neither will be supprised, nor change their opinion of her one iota.

As I said, the questionable judgement in flying while leaking is more relevant and the more damaging scenario.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:53 PM
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30. If it's true, she's a liar! She's deceitful, how can you trust her?
And I wouldn't expect a guy to understand the 'same jacket' concept.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:11 PM
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47. I understand. I also understand its IRRELEVANT
Whether it is true or not, she is a liar and decietful. She is a frikin Alaska Politician, fer gawdsake. And a Repub to Boot. Those who like her will not be bothered by this lie, and those who do not, already know she is a lier.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:42 PM
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44. What? I can't believe that the American people would excuse such a huge lie.
If this is the case, it bespeaks a deeply freakish mind, something too weird and "out there" for most people to take. Well, fundies maybe cuz they're freakish thinkers themselves, but everyone else would be weirded out.

Personally, I think if her daughter HAD gotten pregnant Palin would put out a story that her daughter made a mistake, is going into counseling and had turned to Jesus for help. That's the standard, RW "get out of jail free" card.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:12 PM
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48. After 8 years of Smush, you dont believe we would excuse a lie?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:17 PM
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His lies were "dressed up" with false "data" from "experts"
Palin would be on her own withthis one. It's just too crazy. Besides, she'd just do that standard excuse if it were her daughter's kid. And she knows she might get a little bitof credit for doing it.

I see no reason why she wouldn't just have fudged a bit on the leakage bit and had the kid herself...even if she really didn't look very pregnant.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:10 PM
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53. Huh?
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 06:11 PM by quakerboy
I don't follow you here. What is your theory of the actual happenings, and then your analysis of what that means.

I'm sorry. I don't think that our country cares that much about lies, unless you can show them it is pertaining to a larger matter. Particularly when it comes to Republics, of whom lies are expected, even required. Most people lie on a daily basis to smooth over social interaction, and avoid unpleasant responsibilities.

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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:18 PM
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4. What's with the countdown clock at the end of video?

1026 days, 21:59 hours:minutes and 15 seconds.

Is that a reference to her term as governor?

Also, is that a tiny Israeli flag in her office window?

When was it that her son was born (surely that is public information)... This video was done sometime between Feb 11 and Feb 20... and it's hard to tell if she is a few months pregnant, since she has that zip-up bulky winter windbreaker... but she is "hiking" in high heeled boots. Would someone 6 months pregnant or more go hiking in high heels? (even if it's only walking around town... the streets are slick and there is plenty of ice/slush everywhere)

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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:25 PM
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6. googled for some of my own questions

Trig was born April 18th, 1 month premature.

So in Feb 11 to Feb 20, Sarah Palin would have been exactly 6 months pregnant.

I just talked to my sister and my girlfriend... they both say that at 6 months, it was possible to go for hikes and so on, but neither would have chosen to walk with high heeled boots (it's too easy to slip and fall)
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:30 PM
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7. One think I also noticed, it looked like her hair had been recently colored.
When I was pregnant with my last child 18 years ago I was told not to dye my hair.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:50 PM
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28. I have a 10 week old..
and i dyed my hair every month in the last 2 trimesters.. it's pretty common.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:55 PM
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31. Actually, it's not common.
Most OBs recommend against it due to the absorption of the chemicals into the scalp and subsequently the bloodstream. Same with getting a perm.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:20 PM
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39. Well, my OB had no problems with it in the last 16 weeks..
and I can't think of any of my friends or co-workers who didn't dye their hair in the last few months of pregnancy. I've seen plenty of online articles and OB's who say that it's fine.. just try to keep most of the dye on the hair and on the scalp.

My point is to the original argument however.. just because she dye's her hair doesn't mean she's not pregnant.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:50 PM
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27. So, she's already demonstrated that she likes life on the edge and uses poor judgement? n/t
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bobbert Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:17 PM
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13. Sure enough, Israeli flag

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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:30 PM
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19. She's a Pentecostal, and they're very hawkish on ME issues as a rule,
because they believe Israel has to control all of it's biblical territory before the second coming. The Assemblies of God, of which she is a member, tends to be especially focused on "end times" stuff, though of late other denominations have also prioritized this doomsday scenario over their traditional anti-semitism to some degree.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:21 PM
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5. The host of that show looks like he has a big crush on her, blech. Anyhow, i really need to visit
Alaska, looks like a beautiful state.
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busymom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:03 PM
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11. She looks pregnant to me.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:10 PM
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12. I'm not Bill Frist, but ditto.
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 02:11 PM by chascarrillo
(And "urban hikes"? WTF? It's called "walking".)
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busymom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:19 PM
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14. Seriously...this is ridiculous stuff coming out here...
I wore heels all the time when I was pregnant...and...I actually WALKED in them too!
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:44 PM
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23. I never could but I always marvel at women who are able to do that
Of course I worked at the pentagon at the time. Wearing heals in that place should be an olympic event
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:27 PM
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18. Pregnancy Pillows. Enough said.
Not saying that she wasn't pregnant, but I find it appalling that a mother of four who is carrying a child with Down Syndrome as her fifth child would travel the distance she did and then fly back after her water broke.

Reprehensible, irresponsible, life threatening.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:31 PM
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42. That's what I was remembering from a cable news report last night.
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 03:39 PM by yellerpup
Gave a speech in Colorado (?) AFTER her water broke then insisted on flying back to ALASKA to give birth? The commentators were giving her points for being double tough, but I have a hard time believing any woman with a risky prenancy would endanger herself or her Down's Syndrome child if she valued life at all. How many hours from anywhere in Colorado does it take to fly to Juneau?

I looked it up. Flight from Denver to Juneau 5 hr. 35 min. Poor judgement proven - IF she was pregnant.
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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:45 PM
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24. of course she does
she's just hiking uphill on frozen streets in high heel boots drinking coffee.
what's not pregnant about that??
:sarcasm:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:25 PM
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15. Nice wolf skin and Israeli flag
Anyone see anything else? :shrug:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:26 PM
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17. So she goes running when she's six months pregnant?
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:31 PM
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20. My first wife rode her horse until the middle of her eighth month. n/t
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:34 PM
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21. Did You Look At Her Face?
Pregnant women show in more than one place.

This is silly.
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Martinucho Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:49 PM
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26. When was her baby born?
what month?

U are right. Women's faces typically get swollen before giving birth.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:55 PM
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32. I hope Keith Olbermann does some snooping. 2+2 do not equal 4 with this story.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:27 PM
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41. Leave this alone. You're feeding into sensationalism. n/t
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:45 PM
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45. Its hard to tell because of the jacket she is wearing
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:47 PM
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46. What month was her son born?
How far along was she?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:17 PM
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51. He was born in April. Interesting article.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:24 PM
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52. It looked to me like she could very well have been pregnant under that jacket.
Winter in Alaska = layers = perfect for hiding a pregnancy bump

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panAmerican Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:45 PM
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54. Many women stay fit in pregnancy, and to me, she looked it
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