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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:17 PM
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OMG- Palin SUPPORTED Obama! (The New Yorker)
Oh, my... this is RICH.

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2008/09/08/080908ta_talk_gourevitch

Before she was running against him, Sarah Palin—the governor of Alaska and now the Republican candidate for Vice-President of the United States—thought it was pretty neat that Barack Obama was edging ahead of John McCain in her usually solidly red state. After all, she said, Obama’s campaign was using the same sort of language that she had in her gubernatorial race. “The theme of our campaign was ‘new energy,’ ” she said recently. “It was no more status quo, no more politics as usual, it was all about change. So then to see that Obama—literally, part of his campaign uses those themes, even, new energy, change, all that, I think, O.K., well, we were a little bit ahead on that.” She also noted, “Something’s kind of changing here in Alaska, too, for being such a red state on the Presidential level. Obama’s doing just fine in polls up here, which is kind of wigging people out, because they’re saying, ‘This hasn’t happened for decades that in polls the D’ ”—the Democratic candidate—“ ‘is doing just fine.’ To me, that’s indicative, too. It’s the no-more-status-quo, it’s change.”

This was two weeks ago, at the statehouse in Juneau. After persistent reports, in July, that Palin was on McCain’s short list of potential running mates, her name had faded back into obscurity. Nobody in Alaska seemed to take her seriously as a national prospect, and she had shrugged the whole thing off on television, telling CNBC’s Larry Kudlow that, before considering the job, she would want to know “what is it, exactly, that the V.P. does every day.” Now, at the statehouse, she sat, unattended by aides, curled up in a cardigan, and explained that what she had done every day since becoming governor was to stick her thumb in the eye of Alaska’s Republican Party establishment. “The G.O.P. leader of the state—we haven’t spoken since I got elected,” she said.

She went on, “I guess if you take the individual issues, two that I believe would be benchmarks showing whether you’re a hard-core Republican conservative or not, would be: I’m a lifetime member of the N.R.A.—but this is Alaska, who isn’t?—and I am pro-life, absolutely.” She continued, “I guess that puts me in a box of being hard-core Republican.” But she said she recognized that “the Democrats also preach individual freedoms and individual rights, capitalism, free market, let-it-do-its-thing-best, let people keep as much of their money that they earn as possible. And when it comes to, like, the Party machine, no one will accuse me of being partisan.”

So the possibility that Obama might win Alaska did not worry Palin: “Turning maybe purple in the state means, to me, it’s more independent, it’s not the obsessive partisanship that gets in the way of doing what’s right for this state, and I think on a national level that’s what we’re gonna see.” And she added, “That’s why McCain is the candidate for the G.O.P.—because he’s been known as the maverick, as the conduit for some change.” In the state’s Republican caucus, McCain came in fourth, trailing Ron Paul. “I always looked at Senator McCain just as a Joe Blow public member, looking from the outside in,” she said. “He’s been buttin’ heads with Republicans for years, and that’s a healthy place to be.” Then again, on McCain’s signature issue—the prosecution of the war in Iraq—she did not sound so gung-ho. Her son is a soldier, and she said, “I’m a mom, and my son is going to get deployed in September, and we better have a real clear plan for this war. And it better not have to do with oil and dependence on foreign energy.” ♦

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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:18 PM
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1. Oh, sh*t
:rofl:
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:36 PM
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27. She's a maverick!
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:18 PM
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2. Good. God.
:hi:
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orestes Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:18 PM
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3. So when do the ads
with Palin endorsing Obama come out?
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liberaldem4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:10 PM
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24. I hope that ad comes out soon
How do they counter that ad? :shrug:
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:50 AM
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44. "How do they counter that ad?"
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 10:50 AM by skypuddle
"I have a lifetime of experience that I'll bring to the White House. Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience that he'll bring to the White House. Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002."

Thanks, Hillary.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 01:34 AM
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39. And “what is it, exactly, that the VP does every day?” is a MUST
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:19 PM
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4. Guess the vetting team should have looked a little closer
:rofl: Obama needs an ad NOW!
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:19 PM
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5. Does it really say she supported Obama, or just had some kind words to say about him and his
campaign approach?
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Martinucho Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:19 PM
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6. I don't know if that can be called "support" but she sounded receptive
I'd need a bit more strength in her words to conclude she was supporting him over John McCain, who wasn't mentioned in the paragraph.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:22 PM
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7. "support"- my impression of her embrace of the "change" mantra and her musing that he was ahead of
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 01:23 PM by npincus
McCain in her state which was "neat"--- a bit long for the OP subject line! :)
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:23 PM
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8. OMG McCains head will explode.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:23 PM
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9. I can't wait for the ads.
:D
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:24 PM
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10. Dems are great at squandering these gifts... they'd BETTER NOT
this time!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:25 PM
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11. “I always looked at Senator McCain just as a Joe Blow public member"
Have fun with that Johnny McCaint.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:46 PM
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17. That's actually what the McCain campaign is trying to tell us; that is a maverick.
The quote you noted actually helps John McCain.....as being Joe Blow public and not an insider.


“I always looked at Senator McCain just as a Joe Blow public member, looking from the outside in,” she said. “He’s been buttin’ heads with Republicans for years, and that’s a healthy place to be.”
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:25 PM
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12. This can't be true...if it is then the GOP is taking a Dive in '08
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hasssan1 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:28 PM
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13. Obama , Please make an AD right now and put it every where !!!!
Honest to god Obama's camp and DNC Have so much ammunition i can't even imagine how much damage they can Do .


:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:40 PM
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14. symbolman, where are ya, honey!
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:43 PM
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15. She also supported Obama energy plan. I smell an ad. n/t
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:46 PM
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16. Makes me like her personally
Wingnut that she is, she seems like a very nice person.

But the idea of her being on a national ticket is laughable. Did McCain even vet her? The cupboards are bare, the emperor is naked, etc. The McCain campaign just jumped the shark.
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SteppingStone Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:51 PM
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21. A nice person?

Look at her views on wildlife, the environment, big oil, etc.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:46 PM
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18. Jeebus. Imagine it. McCain ran ads using the words
of a former opponent to attack Obama. Obama could use the words of McCain's own running mate to attack him. McCain really didn't think this one out did he?
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:05 PM
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22. wouldn't that be sweeeeeet.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:46 PM
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19. Time for a new Veep commercial with Palin praising Obama! lol
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:48 PM
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20. Obama's campaign has to use this in an ad!!! lol!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:06 PM
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23. send this to all your righty friends
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 01:13 AM
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36. I just did :D
You can't make this shit up.
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vanderBeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:13 PM
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25. How can anybody say
they vetted her? They probably pulled her name out of a hat.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:15 PM
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26. Don't worry, darling. Your GOP would never start a war over oil.
Oh, look. Time for tea.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:49 PM
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28. Oh dear. That last line is a GEM!
:rofl:
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:08 PM
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29. You are seeing what you want to see.
Nothing in that excerpt indicates that Palin supports Obama.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 05:49 PM
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31. see post #7
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 01:14 AM
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37. It could certainly be twisted that way though. (eom)
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:59 AM
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43. no "twisting"- see post #7
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:12 PM
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30. Great find, npincus!! -- K & R'd n/t
:P
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:08 PM
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32. k and r. nt
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 09:51 PM
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33. This is why he picked her.
He's hoping she can reach across party lines.

"Hey, she even likes Obama." "Hey, she doesn't really like the bad old Republicans." "See... we're about change, too." "Oh and by the way, she's a lifetime member of the NRA and she's hardcore pro-life."


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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 09:53 PM
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34. McClown is regretting not vetting his VP pick.
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 01:06 AM
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35. I have no reason to bother anymore.
Now that there really is no opposition, we can focus on what we can do to get ready for the real challenges. Ahmedinejad, Kim Jong Il, whoever's in charge of China now, Putin, Saakashvili, Lindsay Lohan's father.

C'mon people, let's get to work!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 01:23 AM
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38. “I’m a mom, and my son is going to get deployed in September, and we better have a real clear plan
for this war. And it better not have to do with oil and dependence on foreign energy.”

She sounds like a member of the Democratic Party.

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 01:35 AM
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40. No, she sounds like an idiot.
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parabolabear Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 01:38 AM
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41. she drank the kool aid :\
or had it forced down her throat...
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:53 AM
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42. She was for him before she was against him.
It was only praise, not an endorsement.
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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:04 AM
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45. "we were a little ahead on that" (new energy)
yeah, you are such an innovative thinker, first politician to propose new energy. Barack probably stole your unique idea, and doesn't even have the challenge of a spouse working for a foriegn oil company.

I really really can't stand her.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:11 AM
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46. "what is it, exactly, that the V.P. does every day" I would LOVE to SEE that as a 527 ad
The footage is on out on YouTube
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