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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:49 PM
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So she chooses to not abort, only to almost kill it just prior to delivery??
By getting her amniotic leaking ass on a plane ride??

Yes, I said kill.

Because once she made the decision to step foot on that plane and NOT head to the nearest hospital, she was choosing to endanger the baby's life, with the very, very real chance of going into labor inflight with a Downs baby who even in the best of hospitals, could turn into a high risk delivery.

And I suppose had she delivered and lost the baby midflight, she would have been out there saying it was God's will that the baby didn't survive INSTEAD of saying she made a decision that led to the baby's death?


This is more damning of her than the gossip going around that the baby is really her grandbaby.


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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:50 PM
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1. Knock. It. Off.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:52 PM
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4. No--she's obsessed with my uterus, I have a right to be interested in hers.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:54 PM
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7. So you believe that it's RIGHT for people to mind other people's reproductive systems?
from Morality 101: if it's wrong for her to stick her nose into your uterus, it's wrong for us to stick our nose (figuratively speaking) into hers.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:56 PM
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10. Actually, no. She could end up having the power to
end Roe v Wade. I don't. You don't. I say we go after this POS with everything we've got.

Including and not limited to the fact that she endangered the life of that baby by traveling like that.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:56 PM
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11. She endangered her infant's life, her own life, and could have caused
a very serious incident 30,000 feet up. Sorry, I don't apologize for questioning what this woman has between her ears.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:02 PM
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13. This goes way beyond a uterus
It shows her selfishness, stupidity, and extreme lack of judgement and commone sense.


None of which are shining characteristics that we need in the VP office, a heartbeat away from being President. We've had 4 yrs of all four and look where it has gotten us. If she cannot make a decision about her own child without worrying if she was going to kill him, imagine what (little or none) concern she would have on a much larger scale with people she doesn't know...like all of America.



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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:29 PM
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21. She has already done the sticking, so turnabout is absolutely fair play.
But thank you for your concern.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:55 PM
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9. Well, to be fair. We're ALL obsessed with your uterus...
:rofl:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:58 PM
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12. Two best-lookin' boys in the world came out of my uterus!!
:D
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:09 PM
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14. Hall & Oates?
:rofl:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:11 PM
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16. You're Johnny Depp's mom? Can I come over for Thanksgiving dinner? nt
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:12 PM
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17. LOL!
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 02:14 PM by wienerdoggie
(I may be a little biased...)
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:17 PM
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18. Yeah, me too. I have 2 boys, in their 20s now, and human again.
My mother always told me they'd turn into aliens from about 15 until they graduated from college and she was right. Now that thing only pops out of their chests once every few months or so. :)

And oh my. They're both so handsome and so smart. My older one even grabbed my arm to go down the steep incline we had to traverse to get into Mile High on Thursday. I didn't really need the assistance but no way was I gonna let that moment go. It was wonderful.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:20 PM
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19. Aww--mine are both entering adolescence, so they're a little awkward and
gawky and hitting their growth spurts, and they are already acting like "aliens", but I look forward to those moments someday that you're getting now. :)
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:28 PM
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20. What. Wienerdoggie. Said.
When Little Miss Sarah "I Was A Beauty Queen And Have Five Kids" Palin makes every other women's reproductive tract her business by supporting laws that seek to deprive women of the right to privacy and freedom of reproductive choice, she loses ALL right to reproductive privacy herself. A.L.L.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:43 PM
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26. you people want us to accept something so horrendously stupid and ignore it
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 02:44 PM by seabeyond
mothers who have given birth cannot look at this behavior and pretend it isn't a big deal. it is a huge deal and says a hell of a lot of who this woman is.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:50 PM
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2. I totally understand it.
She's pro-fetus. The baby getting ready to be born doesn't matter. All that matters is that she DIDN'T HAVE AN ABORTION.

That's it. Nothing to see here.


She's a vile, pretentious, sickening POS.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:52 PM
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3. The danger wasn't only to her baby and herself, it was to the crew and
fellow passengers--they would have been forced to make an emergency landing. She wasn't just leaking fluid, she told her doctor she had contractions that didn't feel like false labor. She is a complete dipshit.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:52 PM
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5. I like your Unitarian Universalist avatar. Hmmm, what are those 7 Principles again?
Ah yes, "the inherent worth and dignity of all human beings."

Go to a good UU church tomorrow. Try and pick up a sermon on basic decency and civility.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:54 PM
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6. Life begins at conception
That was child endangerment. Just like riding in the car without a car seat.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:54 PM
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8. Has anyone asked her why she had to fly to Alaska from Texas
for the birth? And why she needed to deliver her speech in Texas AFTER her water broke?

It's a very kooky story.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:09 PM
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15. I agree completely. After your water breaks you get yourself
hunkered down for the delivery.

When my water broke I didn't go into labor. After about 3 hours they induced labor, since it can be dangerous for the baby to not have that fluid around him/her for a long prior to delivery.

And I went through 12 hours of pitocin drip hell before finally delivering my firstborn. Turned out he had to have emergency surgery hours later. I don't even want to think about what kind of shape he would have been in had the doctors not induced labor. It would have made it much tougher for him to survive the surgery he had afterwards.

Anyway, after your water breaks you sure as HELL don't hop on an airplane for a looonnnngggg flight to Alaska.

So, IMO, that's either a lie or she put her baby at risk.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:41 PM
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24. Especially when it's your 5th baby. Start leaking amniotic fluid
and that kid could shoot out pretty fast.
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colinmom71 Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:31 PM
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22. The only way she could have known that she had a small amniotic leak....
Is if she went to an ER or an urgent care clinic before leaving Texas to make sure she was healthy enough to fly home. I highly doubt she carried around a pH kit to measure whether the minor leak was amniotic fluid or urine (this happens in late pregnancy from what I've read that urine leaks can be misinterpreted as amniotic fluid, especially when it's a very small amount of fluid). It's just as likely that she got quickly checked out and was told it was a minor amniotic leak but that her membranes (mucus plug and amniotic sac) were intact and not ruptured and that she was cleared for a few hours travel to go home...

As to why she'd probably prefer to travel home, they were facing the arrival of a baby with DS and likely already had health insurance clearances and the attending obstetrician's plan in place for delivery in Alaska. Should the baby have needed more intensive care than he eventually wound up needing, being practically a continent away from your personal physician and family support would have been a logistics nightmare. If she was cleared for travel per doctor's orders and allowance, then she was justified and excused to go back home until she did eventually deliver later on...

But per medical privacy laws here in the US, that was her decision to act in the manner she felt was best under a doctor's advisement and we are not entitled to her private medical counsel. That's what medical choice and privacy is all about...
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:39 PM
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23. Her medical advice came from a family practice MD--not an OB -Gyn
Very bad advice. Another indication of poor judgment.

Read the article.

http://www.adn.com/626/story/382864.html
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:43 PM
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25. Actually, that's not accurate.
The sniff test will tell you. Pee smells like ammonia. OBs routinely tell women that as they get near the end of gestation. So they don't rush to the hospital thinking that their amniotic sac has broken when they've just leaked a little urine.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 02:47 PM
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27. you just made up a story. none of that is what was accounted by palin
and i had both children, water broke, one not much, and both doctor didnt "see" if it was minor. ass in hospital and induce labor....

both times i was told NEVER do they miss with this. hospital.... have baby

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