WARNING - Attack McCain for his choice. Talk up Barack's speech. Don't make it so much about Palin

[FrenchieCat]

We are making a grave mistake DUers, in laughing and making Democratic Underground the place for the Newsmedia to come in order to justify that "Obama supporters are attacking Sarah Palin personally".

Please listen before it is too late.

Our approach has to be based on the top of the ticket, and no so much the bottom. Certainly we should post about Palin in reference to policy issues and what she believes, but I think doing the personal attacks is going to backfire. We should know better than this by now.

What is totally accurate:

1. McCain is insane for selecting an individual simply because that individual is a woman. It was a cheap political expedient move which failed to calculate the well being of the American people. John McCain has not put Country first with this selection.

2. Obama's speech was record and groundbreaking. It is the speech of a lifetime, and a game changer that favors Democrats big time, and will hurt Republicans big time.

Everything else is bullshit.

**NOTE: I'm bookmarking this, in case the Obama campaign is accused of sexism and disrespect for Gov. Palin in the media. The facts are on our side, but the approach to making sure the McCain-Palin ticket fails is very important...and it is up to us.

[liberal N proud]

1. We cam do all three

Obama gave such a brilliant speech that made McCain shit his Depends and in a desperate move to steal the thunder for the moment and to claim he is still a Maverick selected an under-qualified ill-experienced Governor from who has only been in office for less than 2 years.

How was that?

[FrenchieCat]

3. If you are reading this forum right now, that is not what is happening.

I have warned of things before.

I suggest that I am accurate a higher percentage of time than not.

If you want some links, I will provide them.

Remember that the Media doesn't need a lot, and we are giving them plenty.

[MiniMe]

2. You don't have to make it personal, her experience is very thin

Especially as a VP to somebody who is 72 years old and has had 2 bouts of malignant melanoma.

She was mayor of a small town is Alaska, I think the population is 6,500. She is governor now, less than 2 years. She lied about the bridge to nowhere. She was totally for it. She is being investigated for ethics now. No international experience at all.

I agree with keeping it to things that are documented, but all of those things are documented, and relevent.

[JaneQPublic]

6. Different folks on TV say McCain had 4 melanoma episodes.

But regardless, I agree with the OP, that attacking Palin directly could be counterproductive. Better to hammer the facts of what an irresponsible decision is was, with regard to McCain's age, health, etc.

And don't let him get away with the argument that since his mother is still alive at 90+, then he'll live that old, too. Hell, everyone knows women live to be older, plus he has a multitude of health issues his mother never had, and he also got genes from his mother, who happens to be dead.

[LSparkle]

9. Agreed -- we need to focus on her qualifications, not gender/marital status

If she were a man, we would ALSO be criticizing this
choice ... so we should critique BombBomb's judgment
on that basis.

We also need to call out the news media on its blind
acceptance of her claims about the "Bridge to Nowhere."
NOT ONE REPORT I've yet seen has challenged her speech
yesterday, in which she flat-out lied about her sup-
port for the project. Even the once BALANCED NewsHour
last night accepted her claims as truth -- both Judy
Woodruff in her interview with Alaskans familiar with
Palin and later Jim Lehrer himself with Shields/Brooks.
THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE, especially in light of the gril-
ling Obama has received about his past statements and
associations. If the BombBomb campaign didn't have the
interest in vetting their VP pick, then at least our
media needs to do their job now and not just accept her
bio/resume without question.

But this needs to be about her ACTIONS, her RECORD and
her QUALIFICATIONS, not about her as a person. Just
imagine that this person were Todd Palin, not his wife;
go after the presumptive VP nominee as if THAT were
the case.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

4. She's a corrupt Alaska politician...

who received thousands of dollars from the same contractor that did $250,000 in free work on Ted Stevens' house. She's still close to Stevens -- he even issued a press release praising McCain for his choice.

She's also a right-wing nutcase.

She's also accused of abusing her office to settle personal vendettas.

You can't question McCain's judgment on the issue without questioning the very nature of Sarah Palin herself.

Rip her limb from limb. It's what the Republicans would do to us.

You want a more genteel pasttime? Take up knitting.

[NYC_SKP]

5. Especially the speech part.... We were soooo robbed.

I know 38,000,000 people viewed it, but many people who didn't might have caught good parts of it on cable news or network news.

The Republican's were deadly effective in burying what many say was the most significant speech in recent memory.

And it was buried, third item on the menu after Palin and, in some cases, Gustav.

I hope we'll have another great event on a slow news day and maybe some ads with choice parts of the speech (and there were so many).

:patriot:

[Midlodemocrat]

7. You give DU WAY too much credit.

:rofl:

There are roughly several thousand active posters on this site. How are we going to influence the Obama campaign, again?

[FrenchieCat]

10. Underestimate us at your own peril.

If you don't think that reporters read this site, than I have a rather large bridge to sell you.

[Midlodemocrat]

13. OMG.

You can't make this shit up. :rofl:

[vaberella]

8. I appreciate a lot of what you say FrenchieCat but she is significant to McCain

and as such she needs to be diagnosed because the GOP could pull some bullshit and both of them are ruling this nation into the grave that the Bush admin has been digging for 8 years.

Most of the issues are on her policies and situation with ethics. People are speculating on the baby thing but that's a lot of hot air that will die down. Majority of the people here are looking at her past work, past actions and looking at them closely. I haven't even seen many new posts today on the baby crap.

Secondly, there is sexism going on in the media, by the GOP, and the McCain party to their second in command. Palin is actually playing up the role proudly when she knows, or I hope her intelligence allows her to see, that she's nothing more than a pawn, a TROPHY if you will. Which makes this entire thing even more abhorent that one who calls herself a feminist will allow herself to be nothing more than a tool.

[FrenchieCat]

15. Of course there is sexism going on in the media, just like there is racism

that the media promotes veiled as them "discussing" the election.

That's is exactly why I am saying what I am saying.

The Obama campaign was accused of Sexism.....but no one can ever provide what it was that Obama or members of his campaign actually did to make the assertion.

That is why we have to be somewhat careful....because if the Obama camp is blamed by an out of control media for sexism of Palin, it will hurt Obama and therefore hurt us Democrats. It ain't about the reality, it is about managing the message understand how the media is in colusion with the GOP. Remember the PUMA movement which the Media nurture to grow. In other words, remember New Hampshire. That's all I'm sayin'!

[applegrove]

11. Obama's latest ad all but ignored her. Great strategy. She's not important.

If she was in an important position McCain would have spent more time with her.

[Imagevision]

12. Lets see Sunday politico's dissect Palin, she already is involved in investigation...and

that was the day McBush brings her out.

[AlCzervik]

14. you know i do agree with you and i'm not interested in the pregnancy story but---

having said that i am sick and fing tired of hearing those that question that story called "Mommie haters". Palin should be knocked for her total lack of experience and her nutty positions on creationism.

[FrenchieCat]

17. I agree....it isn't what we say as much as how we say it.

I just think that we need to blame McCain for his lack of judgment more than anything else. That's how we can win the election. This baby thing is the least of our problems.

We don't want to get Palin off the ticket, as much as we want McCain to look as bad as he can under the circumstances.

We have been handed victory by McCain's judgment. That is what we need to exploit and publicize.

[Liberal Dose]

16. So far DU is doing a much better job of vetting Palin than McCain's advance team. Oh, that's right.

They didn't vet her at all. :rofl: I think it's downright nice of us to do it for them.

[JohnnyLib2]

18. Strongly agree.

:thumbsup:

[Bucky]

19. K&R. Enough Republicans and Alaskans are attacking her selection to do for now.

Once they fall in line, I do think it's fair game to quote them. At least no one in print is being as sexist or tacky as some DUers.