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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:48 PM
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'his photogenic but almost comically inexperienced running mate, Sarah Palin'
McCain's campaign is in danger of fracturing
With Sarah Palin on one wing and Colin Powell on the other, don't be surprised if cracks appear in the GOP
Michael Crowley
The Observer, Sunday August 31 2008

some snips-

But look who's divided now: the Republicans. As John McCain heads for St Paul this weekend - with his photogenic but almost comically inexperienced running mate, Sarah Palin, in tow - it is the GOP that struggles to find real unity. John McCain now leads a party saddled with fierce internecine disputes about everything from civil liberties to budget policy to America's role in the world. While these Republicans may lack a soap opera akin to the Clinton-Obama psychodrama, their ideological stitching has come dangerously loose. It is McCain's challenge to ensure that the seams don't burst open before election day.

How times have changed. During the first half of the Bush era, the Republican party brooked about as much dissent as the North Korean Communist party. But nothing breeds division like failure and the collapse of Bush Republicanism has a long list of party factions pointing the finger at one another.

more at link
The Guardian
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:51 PM
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1. I keep getting the weird feeling that we were never supposed to take
McCain seriously, now, here is the icing on the silly cake. It's frightening how far we could fall with those two.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:53 PM
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2. It's the Fundies vs. the Old Greedy Bastards


"Socially moderate Republicans are seeking to assert themselves. The GOP's Wall Street financial base has little interest in banning abortion or gay marriage and, indeed, sees those crusades as a path to electoral exile. Hence, evangelicals in St Paul will be subjected to a Tuesday night keynote speech by the former New York mayor and presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani, who urges his party to be more accepting of abortion."
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:56 PM
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4. yup, we'll see how many mods there are and after seeing the rnc platform it
sure looks like the kook wing wrote it.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:58 PM
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7. between this and the hurricane...

The next week is going to be pretty weird, I'm getting the feeling.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:59 PM
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9. i'm going away so i'll miss much of it but i'll be getting a newspaper for sure
so i can keep up with the daily embarrassments.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:00 PM
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10. have a good trip..

..where ever your going. At least you'll escape some of the madness!

:rofl:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:55 PM
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3. I don't want to bring up Palin about that excellent article.
One phrase leapt up at me in it:

"Democrats are more unified now than in a generation". That is music to my ears. That will help win big time in November.

And it will be curious to hear the reaction in the hall from Guiliani's speech. I don't know if I can personally stomach watching him, though.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:57 PM
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5. i thought that was nice to read as well, i think the whole article is a good read.
i love gop strife and division, it does me heart good.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:47 PM
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17. It says ghouliani, the keynote speaker, is urging republicons to be more
accepting of abortion..meanwhile the poster child for "keep them babies comin' but kill and destroy everything else in the path" is the VP pick of mccain.


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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:57 PM
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6. They're a mess; their struggle is ideological, not personal, like ours was
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 06:57 PM by BeyondGeography
Much worse.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:58 PM
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8. i hope they really start sniping at each other to reporters.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:01 PM
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11. How about cage matches?? nt
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:01 PM
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12. "2 douchebags walk in, only one comes out!"
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:03 PM
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13. GOP will have to take the low road:
If you find yourself hearing quite a lot about what's wrong with Obama next week, it will be because the divided Republicans of 2008 can't agree on what's right about themselves.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:04 PM
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14. well that's not a new tactic for them, they have nothing to offer so they go negative.
hopefully people will just say no this time.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:20 PM
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15. *Almost* comically inexperienced?
Right-wing spin.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:30 PM
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16. That's what I'm talkin' about..
"How times have changed. During the first half of the Bush era, the Republican party brooked about as much dissent as the North Korean Communist party. But nothing breeds division like failure and the collapse of Bush Republicanism has a long list of party factions pointing the finger at one another.

They might try pointing all their filthy a$$ fingers at karl rove and his puppet boy.

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:49 PM
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18. it's sweet, made my day better.
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 09:04 PM
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19. Intelligent analysis
oh, I get it, British media.
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