What kind of woman volunteers for a job that, guaranteed, will consume her every waking minute for

[hisownpetard]

the next four years - when she has a baby who's only 4 months old?

I'll tell you what kind of woman: one who puts ambition above responsibility.
Or one who feels that the special-needs child is not her responsibility to deal with.

Either way - it ain't good.

[leftofcool]

1. So working mothers with babies are a bad thing now?

Why am I not surprised, this is DU after all

[mcctatas]

2. and apparently ambition is too...

it boggles the fucking mind! :crazy:

[1Hippiechick]

8. Okay....restated: what mom w/a new baby would accept a 24/7 job? n/t

[Demeter]

31. You Meant, ANOTHER, Simultaneous 24/7 Job

[hisownpetard]

36. Exactly!

[1Hippiechick]

43. Yes - too late to edit. Thanks!

[1Hippiechick]

5. Read his post..."a job that will consume her every waking minute" what other job would require a

working mom's every waking minute? It's a valid point.

[movonne]

6. A mother with a special needs baby is different...I think it would

be very hard to take care a special needs baby and be the vice president of the U.S....that is a big job...

[nbsmom]

12. Not a bad thing

I believe the OP's point was that it takes a _lot_ to deal with any infant. And a special needs infant, well...

Do you have kids? So then you probably remember how It takes everything you've got to be able to deal if they didn't sleep well the night before. My guess is the OP is probably wondering why is this sleep-deprived woman is signing up for this (and taking her family along for the ride.)

[hisownpetard]

14. I was a working mother ( 2 children), and of course I did not say that working mothers with babies

are a bad thing. That's ridiculous.

I cannot think of any other jobs that would be analagous to being President or VP of the United States
or that would require anyone to be more "on call" for a period of 4 years, at least.

And, yes, I think that if you take on the responsibility of having a child, then part and parcel of that decision
should be the duty to spend as much time as possible with that child. (Key words: "as possible.")

But, hey, this is just my personal belief. Sarah Palin already had a job that she claimed to love, and 4 other kids besides
this new little baby. What would it have taken for her to tell McCain, "I'd love to, but the timing isn't right for me?"

[krawhitham]

23. working 9-5 is one thing, being VP is 24/7

Working 9-5 is great and a mother have every right to get a break from the kids as fathers do

but being VEEP is a 24/7 job with little to no time for kids

[hisownpetard]

37. Yup.

:thumbsup:

[BlooInBloo]

3. This post should not exist.

[1Hippiechick]

9. Why?

[BlooInBloo]

13. Because people telling mothers that they shouldn't have jobs fucking suck.

[hisownpetard]

15. You're being dense, Bloo. I never said any such thing. Please read the OP again.

[BlooInBloo]

19. No thanks.

[emilyg]

21. Amen.

[tammywammy]

25. Agreed!!!!

[cliffordu]

26. This is NOT what the OP is saying.

VP is 24/7/356

Gone for weeks at a time, gone nights.....


Working as a busy attorney or a doctor (after residency) is not even in the same league.

If the hubby is capable of taking care of the kids, alright, but I understand he likes to sit in on her meetings.

[BlooInBloo]

30. Ah. So mothers shouldn't have SOME jobs. Still fail.

[cliffordu]

34. I'm saying that people with INFANTS should have as much physical contact with

their infants as possible.

There are issues of attachment that occur during infancy, lose that window of opportunity and you can have a Ted Bundy before it's over.

I'm not the one painting with the broad brush.

[hisownpetard]

38. Thank you!

:hi:

[cliffordu]

41. No problem...

[PVnRT]

27. K&R this post

If I could, that is...

[pecwae]

29. No, but it's here.

[Demeter]

4. As Mother Of a Special Needs Child, I Totally Agree

But then, I'm not a Republican, either.

[Bunny]

7. What kind of man volunteers for a job that, guaranteed, will consume his every waking minute for

the next four years - when he has a baby who's only 4 months old?

I'll tell you what kind of man: one who puts ambition above responsibility.
Or one who feels that the special-needs child is not his responsibility to deal with.

Either way - it ain't good.

[1Hippiechick]

11. If you are talking about Palin's hubby, his unprofessional "sit-ins" at her meetings probably won't

fly in Washington. Other than him, exactly to whom are you referring?

[emilyg]

20. I like you.

[Bunny]

35. Likewise.

;)

[anigbrowl]

10. This is a silly argument

presumably she has worked out a living schedule where she gets sufficient help from her husband and other kids to balance her family and work demands. I am just fine with that. I just don't think she's comeptent to do the job in the first place.

[1Hippiechick]

16. The crux of the "argument" is judgment. "Country First" should be "Ambition First" for the Repukes.

McInsane dumped his first wife for a younger, more attractive model to further his political ambitions. In a move of desperation (IMO), he selects a trophy VP, thinking HRC supporters and other women will vote for the Repuke ticket.

BTW, there is a YouTube video of McCain who 4 years ago is talking about running for the Presidency--that it has nothing to do with patriotism - it's ambition. In his own words.

Palin is getting up in front of the camera and lying her ass off. If you have done any research on the 'net, you will discover that her "election" as governor of Alaska was a vote AGAINST the incumbent. Further, she promised the people the "bridge to nowhere" until Congress cut off the funding. THEN is when she changed her tune. She is as big a liar as John McCain. There is another thread on here from a native Alaskan who tells what a liar she is, and that she most likely fabricated the story about her water breaking in Texas and then hopping on a jet to fly 10 hours back to Alaska. She fabricates and stretches the truth to try to build herself up, according to the poster.

Search newspapers online in Alaska - read some of the blogs, the editorials. She's not the grand person the Repukes would have you believe she is.

So, the question "what kind of woman with a 4 mo.old baby would volunteer for a job that requires every waking moment" is very relevant.

There's nothing wrong with a working mom having ambition - it's a judgment call about where to draw the line.

[anigbrowl]

33. Not relevant.

I don't disagree about many of the things you point out, but few of them have anything to do with my narrow point that having a 4 month old kid is not in itself a disqualification. In short, just because I disagree with the OP on this one issue doesn't mean I approve of Sarah Palin, and posting a shotgun reply with 10 different points is a waste of both your time and mine.

[1Hippiechick]

42. Is relevant.

Don't like my responses, put me on ignore and don't bother to respond.

[hisownpetard]

39. "There's nothing wrong with a working mom having ambition - it's a judgment call about where to draw

the line."That's exactly it.
It's a matter of priorities.

Halleleujah and thank you. :toast:

[progdonkey]

17. well, sounds like her husband is a co-governor...

So he'd likely be co-VP and when (not if) McCain dies in office, co-president, leaving her with plenty of time to raise her daughter's baby. (Couldn't resist. :hide: )

[K Gardner]

18. That's really not the part that bothers me. What kind of PERSON accepts a job she knows she is

SUPREMELY UNQUALIFIED for - and puts the entire country at risk?

Either unbelievably stupid or dangerously arrogant.

[bitchkitty]

22. A woman who can afford an expensive

nanny. If I were rich and had kids, I'd hire one; I'd be an awful mom, I'd forget I had the little buggers and lose them.

[cliffordu]

24. No worries, I hear her husband proxies for her all the time.

sometimes he runs the show....

[1Hippiechick]

28. That oughta fly in DC. n/t

[tammywammy]

32. Yes, those women in medical school and residency should be forced to be on birth control

[Blondiegrrl]

40. Wow. I'm so glad Obama is above all this petty shit.

KEEP THEM WIMMIN BAREFOOT AND PREGNANT! WOOHOO!

[CarbonDate]

44. That's what nannies are for.

Really.