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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:53 PM
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First polls regarding McSame's pick of Sarah 'Plain', they ain't good

Surprise? First Two National Polls Find Palin Gains LESS Support from Women



The first national polls on John McCain's pick of Sarah Palin yesterday came out today from Rasmussen and Gallup -- and contrary to what the GOP probably hoped, she scored less well with women than men.

Here's a finding from Gallup: Among Democratic women -- including those who may be disappointed that Hillary Clinton did not win the Democratic nomination -- 9% say Palin makes them more likely to support McCain, 15% less likely.

From Rasmussen: Some 38% of men said they were more likely to vote for McCain now, but only 32% of women. By a narrow 41% to 35% margin, men said she was not ready to be president -- but women soundly rejected her, 48% to 25%.

Only 9% of Obama supporters said they might be more likely to vote for McCain.

Overall, voters expressed a favorable impression of her by a 53/26 margin, but there was a severe gender gap on this: Men embraced her at 58% to 23%, while for women it was 48/30.

And by a 29/44 margin, men and women together, they do not believe that she is ready to be President.

As for voters not affiliated with either major party, 37% are more likely to vote for McCain and 28% less likely to do so.

Gallup is now out with its own initial poll. It also shows women with a slightly less favorable view of Palin. An excerpt from USA Today:

There is wide uncertainty about whether she's qualified to be president. In the poll, taken Friday, 39% say she is ready to serve as president if needed, 33% say she isn't and 29% have no opinion.

That's the lowest vote of confidence in a running mate since the elder George Bush chose then-Indiana senator Dan Quayle to join his ticket in 1988. In comparison, Delaware Sen. Joe Biden was seen as qualified by 57%-18% after Democrat Barack Obama chose him as a running mate last week.....

Among all those surveyed, 35% call Obama's speech at Invesco Field at Mile High Stadium Thursday night excellent, 23% good, 15% "just OK," 3% poor and 4% "terrible." Sixteen percent say they didn't see it and 14% have no opinion. That's higher than the ratings for acceptance speeches by President Bush and Democrat John Kerry in 2004, by Bush and Democrat Al Gore in 2000 and by Republican Bob Dole in 1996.

Asked about the Democratic convention's impact, 43% say it makes them more likely to vote for Obama, 29% less likely. Nineteen percent say it won't make a difference.



http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003844485

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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:59 PM
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1. I especially like this paragraph:
"Among all those surveyed, 35% call Obama's speech at Invesco Field at Mile High Stadium Thursday night excellent, 23% good, 15% "just OK," 3% poor and 4% "terrible." Sixteen percent say they didn't see it and 14% have no opinion. That's higher than the ratings for acceptance speeches by President Bush and Democrat John Kerry in 2004, by Bush and Democrat Al Gore in 2000 and by Republican Bob Dole in 1996."
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:55 PM
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6. I met a neighbor tonight who 'knew' I was a Liberal and couldn't wait
to vote for Obama. She is an independent.

How did she know I was a 'Liberal'?





That sticker on my bumper.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:05 PM
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2. What a guy that McCain is, huh.
Spends weeks blasting Obama's "inexperience" and then chooses a remote-province moose huntin' govrnor with 3 and a half weeks' experience on the job... something like that.

At the rate his strategy is going, he might welcome Gustav's arrival if it bumps the GOP Fib Fest off the news.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:11 PM
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4. Like a respondent on CNN said, maybe he's after the Eskimo vote?
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Carmavore Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:11 PM
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3. link to the poll?
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 07:12 PM by Carmavore
I just went to Rasmussen, and on their front page it says someting different?

"Palin Makes Good First Impression: Is Viewed More Favorably than Biden"

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:13 PM
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5. It's off Editor and Publisher, linked in the OP
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 07:18 PM by DainBramaged
Well, maybe it is posted elsewhere.

Oh and that poll you noted was of 1000 people they telephoned today. Mostly Republicans, which is their

slant.

1* Earlier today, John McCain named Sarah Palin to be his Vice Presidential running mate. Was this the right choice for McCain to make?


40% Yes

32% No

28% Not sure


2* With Sarah Palin as his running mate, are you more likely or less likely to vote for John McCain?


35% More likely

33% Less likely

28% No impact

3% Not sure


3* If necessary, is Sarah Palin ready to be President?


29% Yes

44% No

26% Not sure


4* In political terms, is Sarah Palin very conservative, somewhat conservative, moderate, somewhat liberal, or very liberal?


37% Very conservative

32% Somewhat conservative

13% Moderate

1% Somewhat liberal

0% Very liberal

16% Not sure


5*Do you have a very favorable, somewhat favorable, somewhat unfavorable, or very unfavorable impression of Sarah Palin?


29% Very favorable

24% Somewhat favorable

17% Somewhat unfavorable

9% Very unfavorable

18% Not familiar with Sarah Palin

2% Not sure


NOTE: Margin of Sampling Error, +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence

If these are the results, Rasmussen is lying on the headline.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:01 PM
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8. You do have to wonder about Rasmussen's methodology. There seems
to be a growing divide between Gallup & Rasmussen. I think Rasmussen only had Obama up +3, post convention, while Gallup has him +8. I admit I don't know anything about polling, but should we just assume that between the two, the truth lies somewhere in the middle?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:06 PM
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11. Since 1999, I have taken Rasmussen with a pound of salt
If you read the 'endorsements' at the top of their home page, most are from Reich-wingers.

I think they are only good for immediate comparison, not truth. But Gallup, on the other hand, in my opinion, can suck even more.

There is only one standard poll everyone can depend on

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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 09:17 PM
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18. Nice 9th post in 6 months....1/3 of the time palin has been in office.
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 03:14 AM
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26. deleted
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 03:31 AM by ChimpersMcSmirkers
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:56 PM
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7. Meh. Gender gap, nothing new.
I'll bet party identification has a stronger correlation to this question than gender.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:03 PM
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9. HERE is the USA Today poll
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-08-30-palin-poll_N.htm

Voters uncertain on Palin

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin faces a getting-to-know-you process as the Republican vice presidential candidate, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds: Most Americans say they've never heard of her.
There is also wide uncertainty about whether she's qualified to be president. In the poll, taken Friday, 39% say she is ready to serve as president if needed, 33% say she isn't, and 29% have no opinion.


YOU VOTE: Is Palin a good choice?

That's the lowest vote of confidence in a running mate since the elder George Bush chose then-Indiana senator Dan Quayle to join his ticket in 1988. In comparison, Delaware Sen. Joe Biden was seen as qualified by 57%-18% after Democrat Barack Obama chose him as a running mate last week.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:04 PM
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10. Here's the crux: Undecideds Don't Like The Palin Pick
Undecideds Don't Like The Palin Pick
from The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan by Andrew Sullivan

The headlines are about the broad polling reaction to Palin. But the most fascinating part of the first Rasmussen poll on the matter is how those who are currently undecided in the election felt. They, after all, the votes both campagns are trying to win over with their veep picks. The key data is in the cross-tabs.

On the critical question, "With Palin As Vice-Presidential Nominee, Are You More Or Less Likely To Vote For McCAin," there's a striking result. Among those already for McCain, 68 percent say it makes them more likely to vote for him; only 6 percent say less; and 23 percent said no impact. Among those already for Obama, Palin made only 9 percent of them more likely to switch to McCain, 59 percent less likely, and 30 percent said it would make no difference.

Among undecideds, the Palin pick made only 6 percent more likely to vote for McCain; and it made 31 percent less likely to vote for him. 49 percent said it would have no impact, and 15 percent remained unsure. More to the point: among undecideds, 59 percent said Palin was unready to be president. Only 6 percent said she was.

From this first snap-shot (and unsettled) impression, Palin has helped McCain among Republicans, left Democrats unfazed, but moved the undecideds against him quite sharply. I totally understand why.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/undecideds-dont.html
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Carmavore Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:12 PM
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13. thanks for the links
I'm really curious how this plays out in the polls in the next few weeks
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:13 PM
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14. It'll help him with his base for sure...but the election won't be won by the base anyway
It HURTS him with everyone else.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 03:08 AM
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24. Independents are paying attention.
Thankfully.
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obamican Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:10 PM
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12. love it
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:15 PM
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15. Wait til the rest of the women hear that she opposes ALL birth control..
even between married couples. Yeah.. that'll really make the women FLOCK to her. She's an EXTREMIST. I don't care how they try to make her out like the Republican Patty Murray. She's basically Pat Buchanan in drag!
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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 09:35 PM
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20. Eew. For real? I didn't know that.
Creepy cultist.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:16 PM
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16. Interesting
THANKS for posting this.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:26 PM
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17. The only thing is we should wait for the convention. You know they'll show some biographical
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 08:27 PM by jenmito
short movie about her. Of course it will put her in the most positive light, and then who knows how people will feel. I have a feeling that once Dems. and Independents see all that, her approval will go down, but there may be some who fall for her "story."
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 03:26 AM
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28. I think she also has to be spot-on perfect until the debate as well.
Any mistakes and the MSM will probably crucify her. I'd say she has about %0 margin of error.
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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 09:30 PM
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19. Mwahahahaha! Awesome.
Kick this baby up a notch!

:kick:
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 09:48 PM
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21. That 9% number for McCain/Palin will go down
once women find out more about Palin's beliefs.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/29/163234/559/495/579213

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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 09:52 PM
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22. This is the beginning of the end for McClown.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 02:45 AM
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23. He might as well put on a clown suit. This is going to be a fun week.
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GrizzlyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 03:13 AM
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25. Do they really expect us to believe 39 percent say she is ready to be prez?
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 03:13 AM by GrizzlyMan
Give me a fuckin break. Gallup is a right wing shop, folks.
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 03:22 AM
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27. Well, my guess is that the fundie percentage of the population is ~ 30%
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:36 AM
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29. Good Point! Thank God that's all they are.
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succubus.blues Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:40 AM
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31. it's the same group
that thinks Bush is doing a good job. We were never going to get them anyway.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:53 AM
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32. Who want's 'em?
:rofl:
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succubus.blues Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 05:23 PM
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34. we don't.
we want the educated voter. None of this the earth is 6000 years old and dinosaurs lived on the ark with Noah crap.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:39 AM
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30. For her sake, she'd better be cramming night and day for the VP debate.
It won't really do a damned bit of good. But she DOES know the sheer depth, knowledge and experience of Joe Biden?

That debate won't be the question portion of the Miss Alaska pageant.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 01:32 PM
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33. Nah, she won't bother, I bet she doesn't make it and resigns before then
I think McCain's 'handlers' are going ballistic over this pick.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 05:31 PM
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35. I will give Bush Credit for one thing
He has Lowered the Fucking Bar.

After him, its not even stretching my credulity that 39% say she is ready to be prez if needed.
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