LibertyorDeath
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Wed Sep-03-08 01:39 PM
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Palin pick makes sense if they are confident they can Steal it ! |
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Like many people here I've been thinking about this for days.
It's the one thought I keep coming back to.
If they are confident they can Steal this election
then the qualifications of their VP pick are irrelevant.
Hope to hell I'm wrong.
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Wed Sep-03-08 01:41 PM
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1. That's what I've been thinking, too!!!! |
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I hope to hell we're wrong, too!!!!
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Wed Sep-03-08 01:58 PM
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13. After the elections of 2000 & 2004 |
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It's hard not to think about this.
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Wed Sep-03-08 02:03 PM
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Wed Sep-03-08 01:42 PM
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2. If they were confident they could steal it, they'd run Gingrich or Delay. |
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They wouldn't waste time on lightweight symbolism, they'd just turn power over to their own backroom dudes, whoever that is these days.
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Wed Sep-03-08 01:47 PM
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7. Good point but there are big ego's involved here |
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Palin is most likely Rove's choice imo
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Wed Sep-03-08 02:00 PM
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The good thing about being the power behind the throne is you don't have to run for office, you don't get the blame when it all goes south, and you can stay behind the scenes for the next king you make. So maybe no one wants to be made visible in this election.
I don't know if it's Rove. This is simplistic for Rove, unless their is more to come. This is more like what Gingrich used to talk about in the 90s--splitting the Democratic Party by running someone like Nader, or nominating an African American or female Republican candidate to lure voters to his party. Gingrich was convinced that all Americans are just sheep who vote on issues of identity, and that a female Republican would overcome all the objections to specific Republican policies, like abortion. Gingrich never understood the intellectual nature of Democratic ideals, so he just assumed we voted our guts and genitals the way Republicans do.
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Wed Sep-03-08 02:07 PM
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16. Well there is something very Bizarre going on |
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Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 02:08 PM by LibertyorDeath
In the Rethug camp for MCcain and his team to make such a spectacular Fuck up
of a choice for VP.
MCcain has been around DC politics for a quarter Century It makes me think
he has been assured of the Presidency so it's ok to go with a complete neophyte for VP
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Wed Sep-03-08 02:35 PM
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19. The opposite is also possible |
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His polls may show that he doesn't have a chance, so he's picking the candidate that they show might shake things up.
Remember, if all this about stealing the elections is true, they still have to do it state by state, which means they are really only able to do it in states that they have some control over but that are likely to go Democrat. Florida and Tennessee in 2000, Ohio in 04, for instance. If it's a real landslide, then stealing Florida or Ohio might not help.
It's also possible that McCain just out-thought himself. It's been a long time since he's been in touch with the average voter. This may have been him playing a hunch, then finding out his hunch was bad.
And I wouldn't write the requiem mass yet. George HW Bush was this much of a joke, too, and was trailing Dukakis by a lot more. Dukakis picked a venerable statesman as his running mate, and HW picked Dan Quayle. You'll notice who the history books say won that one. Just sayin', I ain't puttin' down my hammer until the last nail is driven.
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Wed Sep-03-08 02:51 PM
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20. If Rove was in jail or dead take your pick I'd be breathing |
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a lot easier about this.
He is alive and well and as corrupt as they come.
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Wed Sep-03-08 01:42 PM
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3. I think no one wanted to be on McBush's losing ticket. |
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Those Reps want to be able to run again in 2012 w/o the stigma of losing this year.
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Wed Sep-03-08 01:44 PM
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That's why you have Mitt Romney basically saying he wants to run in 2012 if McCain loses. No one wants to get near this. No one of consequence, anyway.
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Wed Sep-03-08 01:49 PM
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8. This year really reminds me of 1996. |
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The Reps knew Clinton was going to win in a landslide so they 'gave' the nomination to Dole knowing he would lose but that it wouldn't hurt any candidates for 2000.
McBush was 'given' the nomination and he 'chose' an unknown VP to at least inject some semblance of life into his campaign.
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Wed Sep-03-08 01:43 PM
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4. I'm sure they have it narrowed to one or two key states |
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they think Palin could help win
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Wed Sep-03-08 01:43 PM
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5. It also makes sense if they're confident they're going to lose it. |
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Might as well earn some points with certain constituencies like the religious right and the GOP women.
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Wed Sep-03-08 01:52 PM
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10. Yeah that was my starting point I thought they were |
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throwing MCcain away knowing they can't win this time round
but now I think there going to steal it.
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Wed Sep-03-08 01:50 PM
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9. If you've been paying attnetion to Palast and Mark Crispin MIller........ |
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Wed Sep-03-08 01:53 PM
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11. Oh, I have no doubt they will try.... |
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but let's hope they don't manage to pull it off.
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Wed Sep-03-08 02:08 PM
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when I found out McLame was the nominee, was that they are going to steal more than they ever have because the GOPers don't have much faith in McLame being able to win. So they have to steal A LOT to make up for it.
Our only hope is if Obama wins by a landslide, because if it's even remotely close they'll steal enough to win it.
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Wed Sep-03-08 02:27 PM
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18. I've arrived at the same point but only after his |
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Amazingly Craptastic VP pick.
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