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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:09 PM
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Constitutional Law was the toughest and most awsome course that I
took in law school. It was incredibly complicated, difficult, challenging. It is the history of this Nation codified and embodied in caselaw. Not everyone can teach it, in fact, most professors cannot. Con Law professors have a special place. DU lawyers and law students...don't you agree?

PS. I guess this afternoon I'm thinking about how lucky this country is to have Obama.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:12 PM
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1. Don't forget, Joe Biden also teaches con law course as well.
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FlaDem83 Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:12 PM
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2. Agreed!! I had Martha Minnow at Harvard Law and she was awesome!!!
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 04:18 PM by FlaDem83
it was by far my favorite class, seconded only by my The Law of Democracy class taught by Prof. Richard Pildes, who wrote the textbook by the same name with a contribution from none other than my favorite presidential candidate, Senator Obama.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:18 PM
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3. I think that any candidate should take a test on the Constitution
before being eligible to even run for Congress, Senate Vice President or President. We would have a much more informed group running our nation.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:21 PM
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4. I agree completely. Con Law tied for my all-time fave with a history class I took called
"Oil and the American Century."

I'll never forget either of them!
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:25 PM
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5. I second your contention.
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 04:26 PM by no_hypocrisy
Two semesters and I still feel I could spend a lifetime studying these cases. We concentrated on the dormant commerce clause and equal protection clause.

I'm still freaked out by Koramatsu and Buck v. Bell.
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CashGap Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:30 PM
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6. LINK URGENTLY NEEDED
Can we get a link showing that Obama taught Constitutional Law?

I'm in an argument with a guy who says he only taught race and gender stuff. This would help me ALOT.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:52 PM
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10. Gosh! I think if you google Obama (other than his website) you'll find a link
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:08 PM
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15. Back to the bridge with you.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:32 PM
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7. I agree!
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:32 PM
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8. Well...I'm not a lawyer. (or a law student)
My undergraduate degree is in Political Theory (Not Political Science! They're different things and I'll explain that difference if anybody cares.) and I had to take 2 semesters of Constitutional Law.

It was the worst, most fulfilling, year of my college life. I know why more than 50% of the Theory majors in our politics program switch to the American Government or International Relations majors. Less than 40% of my class passed both semesters and that was considered a miraculously-great year by the department. It's usually 70% fail for either course. I've won so many debates and arguments because of what I learned in those courses though, even if I did have to study over 10 hours a week to pass them.

:thumbsup: to Con Law Profs.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:36 PM
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9. Obama was rated very highly by his student. And Biden teaches law, too!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:54 PM
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11. If Gwen Ifill had to guts to just compare the two VP nominees familiarity with the Constitution
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:56 PM
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12. We don't need no stinkin' constitution... as long as we got
God and guns... we'll all be safe.

Don't complicate matters;

Constitution don't give you no 'executive experience.'

And it sure as shootin' don't teach you to
field dress a damn moose!
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:04 PM
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13. My Con Law teachers were wonderful
Steve Shiffrin was visiting at Harvard my second year, and he is one of the towering experts of constitutional law. He's been at Cornell since the late 1980s, AFAIK. Unbelievable teacher, superb scholar and really nice man. I took my advanced Con Law from Larry Tribe. 'nuff said. Out of the ballpark brilliant, very approachable and he took me and a quartet of classmates out to lunch at his favorite (and not cheap) restaurant in Cambridge. And picked up the tab.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:07 PM
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14. But...but...Sarah was MISS WASILLA!
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wizstars Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:13 PM
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16. By far my favorite too!...
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 05:14 PM by wizstars
...and my toughest grade. I thank God I had the opportunity to take it. It really shaped my whole outlook on our system. Emphatically, yes, every candidate should have to be thoroughly conversant in it. Chimpster would fail it miserably.
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:13 PM
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17. That class kicked my butt
Well, other classes did too - but that one was very tough to get through.

We are lucky to have Obama AND Biden. God help this earth if the Repugs steal another one. We cannot allow them to do so!
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:22 PM
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18. In 1982
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 05:25 PM by abumbyanyothername
In 1982 I went into the University of Iowa College of Law from a union household, and direct from selling the Socialist Workers' Party newsletter, "The Militant" on the campus of my undergraduate school. When I was informed that Reagan had been shot, my first response was "Did they use a large caliber weapon?"

In Arthur Bonfield's Constitutional Law course day 1, I took on the professor for the full class on the topic of Marbury vs. Madison. I was yet unaware that I was supposed to be cowed and intimidated by law professors telling me I was wrong or missing something.

I left that class at the end of the semester, still firmly Democratic, and a teary-eyed patriot. In Con Law I would get regulary overwhelmed with emotions best expressed by the simple "I love this country!" In fact, that class, while certainly far less personally taxing or life-threating, was every bit for me as much a journey of personal discovery of love for my country as John McCain last night described himself going through in the Hanoi Hilton around 15 years earlier.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:24 PM
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19. I recall that Bill Clinton taught this same course at University of Arkansas.
See a pattern?
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Misskittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:36 PM
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20. Yes, constitutional law is the intellectual top of the mountain for lawyers.
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