Can I be petty for a moment?

[BklynChick]

Just when are these two 17yos getting married?

[DrDan]

1. why?

it is their issue to resolve.

Leave the children out of this.

[BklynChick]

5. well, FTR I don't think they should be forced into getting married. but because palin is making

such a big deal about them doing the 'honorable' (yea, right) thing, I just wondered. I really doubt it's gonna happen and honestly for their sake, I hope it doesn't.

[DrDan]

20. Makes no difference how you, or I, feel about it

it is a personal issue - and should not be a matter of the campaign.

[JimDandy]

47. She made it part of the campaign.

Good Lord, you are the busiest little defender of Sarah Palin on this board. Things that make you go, Hmmm?

[bahrbearian]

6. why?

[DrDan]

16. strictly a private matter - exactly

[Trajan]

9. BS ...

The poster is NOT a member of the campaign, and has every right to question the parenting abilities of the Palins ....

FUCK the notion of going easy on these assholes ...... Use EVERY attack possible, because you know they will ....

Mush their fucking faces in the mud ..... enough of their bullshit ....

[DrDan]

13. so attack her - leave the kids out of it

[Trajan]

28. The hypocrisy is fair game ....

Sarah Palin is the target .... her children are a reflection of her parentage ...

While it would be improper to 'target' the children, it is absolutely proper to take note of their current status as a marker to explain whether Sarah should be trusted according to what she says versus what she does, and what she did ...

So ... simply mentioning Bristol is NOT a violation of the rule to 'keep the kids out of it' ... in fact, it is critical to mention them in order to point out her glaring hypocris .... Noting their marriage status is NOT 'attacking them' .....

[DrDan]

31. but . . .

what "she" says and what her daughter does does not translate into hypocrisy. Those are two different things.

This is a losing argument.

[Trajan]

32. Nonsense ...

Your's is a rational argument, and that is fine for rational people .... But WE need to attack the GOP ticket, and people relate DIRECTLY to these ideas .... The 'apple doesn't fall far from the tree', is the saying, even if it isn't technically true ....

I say hurl as MUCH mud as possible ..... not less ....

[DrDan]

33. and that loses elections

that is juvenile and immature.

Follow the lead of Obama. Do you see him hurling mud?

[Trajan]

34. No ...

Being nice pussies has lost us elections ...

It's time to take the gloves off, and go after them .. big time ....

We are not Obama .... Let Obama rise above us .... We can take the rhetorical battle to the electorate ....

Palin is a fucking hypocrite, and her family is the proof ....

[DrDan]

37. that is so juvenile

follow his lead . . .

You attack when you are behind. Everyone who has ever followed an election knows that.

[Trajan]

38. Fuck that

Your claim is nonsense: The Republicans have used EVERY ugly trick in the book, and have won 6 of the last 8 elections ....

I will NOT follow Obama's lead in this case: He is a presidential candidate, and MUST stay above the fray : I am a citizen who is tired of losing ..... I am not beholden to act like a presidential candidate ...

No more pussy assed campaigns .... Go for the fucking jugular .... You feel that is juvenile ? ... fine ....

[DrDan]

40. yes I do

and trust me, you are far from a candidate

[Trajan]

41. .

I'm still a citizen ..... and we are a tired, huddled bunch ....

You still have this problem of making the claim that mean-assed, ugly campaigns filled with personal attacks loses elections, even though it can be shown that the party that always uses them has won most of the last 8 elections ..... We call that a false argument; an incongruity ...

[DrDan]

43. and some of us are a "mature" tired, huddled, bunch . . . .

[Two Americas]

44. yeah!

We need to be as irrational as they are!

Once we are exactly like them, then we can beat them.




on edit - I am being sarcastic here...

[treestar]

36. It sounds like a losing argument to rational people

But the repukes wouldn't hesitate for a minute if it were the other way round. We are all naturally gun shy about the way the swiftboaters were rewarded, and cynical about the voters.

[Raineyb]

39. Really?

Because whenever we talk about black people in the inner city that is exactly the point that Repukes make. What's sauce for the goose should be sauce for the gander. At the very least someone should point out such glaring hypocrisy.

Regards

[BrklynLiberal]

2. Don't hold your breath waiting for an invite. I would guess that as soon as the media storm

is over, the wedding plans will be over too.

[DeadEyeDyck]

8. why? You wouldn't marry the daughter of the govenror

or the VP nominee?

[BrklynLiberal]

12. I don't think that kid wants to marry anyone right now. He wants to get back to hockey and

snow-boarding....

[Liberal Veteran]

3. I'm guessing mid-November, if at all.

When McSame loses, I'd bet anything that relationship falls apart.

[bahrbearian]

11. Damn . I was looking for a White House wedding.

[Liberal Veteran]

21. A White House wedding isn't out of the equation. You just might have to wait until 2016.

When Obama's oldest daughter is old enough to get married.

[bahrbearian]

30. I can look forward to that.

[JVS]

4. You mean the FORNICATORS?

[Xipe Totec]

7. 9/11, at 9:11AM, just before he ships to Iraq on flight 911 to join the 9th cavalry, 11th battalion.

[Starry Messenger]

10. Right!

With Guiliani officiating.

MPK

[gmoney]

17. amended...

Perhaps the October Surprise will be an unfortunate "friendly fire" incident at the hands of the Alaska National Guard...

[BrklynLiberal]

14. Don't laugh, but the brother, Track, is supposed to ship out on 9/11....

You know, the one that was given the choice...the Army or Jail time.

[peacebird]

18. Was Track really told to choose between Army and jail?

[Xipe Totec]

19. Not trying to be funny, just predicting based on prior behavior

which just happens to be tragically funny.

[la la]

22. WHAT WHAT WHAT....

jail or the army??/????

how did I miss that ?///??/

what did the punk do?

[regnaD kciN]

25. I hate to be so cynical...

...but I can't help wondering if the White House (note: NOT Palin or anyone directly connected to her) might order him to be put on the front lines in the most dangerous part of the country until the election. I mean, wouldn't it be a great tear-jerker to have the Republican vice-presidential candidate dominate the pre-election headlines as a grieving-but-still-proud "Gold Star Mother?" How many millions of votes would that gain them?

[coalition_unwilling]

42. As in "Let's Uriah-the-Hittite his sorry ass"? See

I & II Samuel for more on this.

[ComplimentarySwine]

48. I don't think that that's true:

http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r601_210.pdf

From page 50 of that PDF file:

"b. Applicant who, as a condition for any civil conviction or adverse disposition or any other reason through a civil
or criminal court, is ordered or subjected to a sentence that implies or imposes enlistment into the Armed Forces of the
United States is not eligible for enlistment unless—
(1) The condition is removed by the same or higher authority imposing the sentence.
(2) The condition is removed by virtue of expired period of sentence.
(3) The condition is over 12 months from imposition and the court, city, county, or State no longer obligates the
applicant to this condition."

[peacebird]

15. why are they getting married? It is very likely that a divorce will follow a few years down the road

There is so much growing up to be done between 17 and 21. How many of us can truly say that we would be happy and still married to our high school sweetheart if we had gotten pregnant at 17 and had a shotgun wedding? Don't get me wrong - it can work, but just usually doesn't.

Is getting married too young as punishment for getting pregnant really a "family value"?

I was raised to believe marriage was something not to be entered into lightly, or for the wrong reasons.

[rwheeler31]

23. Sorry putting your tee age kids who messed up

on national tv is disgusting.

[BlooInBloo]

24. Pfft. More christian hypocrites - yah, like THAT'S a novelty.

[gulliver]

26. How crass! You don't think for a second that Palin...

... is only saying they are getting married to save her political career. That's crass and petty and...just how could you?

What I want to know is where the ring was purchased and who paid for it.

[Sheltiemama]

27. I figured it would be onstage at the convention.

Surely there were enough folks in the audience with access to shotguns, and someone ordained to perform the ceremony.

[KittyWampus]

29. when will the stupidity stop? Is it really necessary to feed your sick obsession on DU?

[angee_is_mad]

35. Before November?

and divorced by September?

[Phx_Dem]

45. If they're smart, never. No reason to compound one mistake

with another. If they want, and are ready, to marry. Great. But, if that were the case, I think they probably would have already done so.

[ComplimentarySwine]

46. Maybe he actually wants to marry her?

I think there was a picture from the convention of them holding hands. When zoomed in, he appears to have a tattoo across his ring-finger, where a wedding-ring would go, that says, "Bristol".

[Phx_Dem]

49. I didn't say he didn't want to marry her. n/t