NRaleighLiberal
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Sat Sep-06-08 09:38 PM
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It isn't about Palin so much as how/why it was her - my theory...please read and ponder. |
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I was just working around the house this morning trying to make sense of the past few weeks - but not focusing on what I am sure was the intended focus - on Sarah Palin, and even perhaps John McCain, themselves - but about the selection process itself. Here is what I came up with - does it make sense? And does it provide a guide for how to counteract the desired impact?
First, what do we know about the Neocon view of Government - shrink it down so that it can drown in a bathtub. To them, Government isn't about helping the people - it is about gathering and holding power to act out their paranoia and power lust. There is not a shred of religion in their collective souls, but they have learned how to corral the many in the US who are vulnerable to anything Jaysus. So, all that they need are figureheads to run the country - they run all of the backroom workings, and have puppets in charge to fire up the minions.
What better way to position a ticket than to play to these vulnerabilities - get a war hero (fulfills the fear factor, the need for many Americans to have a war horse protector), and a Jesus freak that can spout all of the right wing, holy roller smokescreen, but add a dash of mom and apple pie - and you have the perfect ticket for the neocon agenda.
So it really isn't about issues - it is never about issues for them. It isn't about effective government - they don't like government. It isn't about the economy, or the people - hell, the great divide forming is perfect for them - all they need IS the few with the big bucks.
That is now how I am seeing it. They selected candidates who will be scrutinized to death, all sorts of conspiracies to follow - but they know that it will charge up nearly enough. Then all they need to put the icing on the cake is a bit of vote flipping here and there, a bit of voter caging here and there (Obama is firing up those who will never vote republican, so you just ensure that they can't vote).
If that pessimistic and cynical view is indeed the playbook, what is the offense and defense to play against it so that we can get these dangerous, destructive and megalomaniac people out of power?
So to me following around Palin's scandals and McCain's houses are not where the game is.
thoughts?
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Sat Sep-06-08 09:41 PM
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1. Well, I was never an expert on how one steals votes |
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I'm hoping to leave that to Democrats who are far more intelligent than I am on that.
Hopefully there are experts. :( I'm not one of them.
However, I am seeing what a hypocrite and liar this Palin woman is, and if everyone remained quiet about that, would ordinary people find out what a piece of trash she is?
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NRaleighLiberal
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Sat Sep-06-08 09:43 PM
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2. Good point - we need both - exposing what she is, but digging deeper into the real crimes. |
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She is an effect - we need to dig to the root causes!
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Sat Sep-06-08 09:44 PM
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to me it is about plausible deniability. they wanted to create the myth of a "game changer". She really isn't that. It was all made for TV. SO it is about creating the myth of palin appeal and the plausible deniability. Then at 5:00 on voting day they measure Obama's lead and flip just enough votes at the tabulator to eek out a close victory.
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Sat Sep-06-08 09:45 PM
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4. I think her and her whacko husband are a bit too crazy to make good neocons. |
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Sat Sep-06-08 09:48 PM
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5. Yes! They are not neocons - they are only the mannequins put into place |
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to soak up the news so that the puppet masters can work behind the scenes. as I said before, these people worked hard to get into power, they will stop at nothing to retain it. And a culture obsessed with reality shows will not focus on what is really going on.
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Sat Sep-06-08 09:49 PM
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7. Well, what I mean is....I don't know that Sarah and Todd would be so interested |
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in doing the bidding of the cons...since the neocons aren't interested in pushing Fundie agendas...
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Sat Sep-06-08 09:48 PM
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6. The answer is much simpler : James Dobson picked Palin for McCain |
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If McCain went with a non evangelical the fundies would have stayed home and Mc would have lost in an epic fashion.
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Sat Sep-06-08 09:58 PM
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10. and was aided and abetted by big oil... |
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Sat Sep-06-08 09:59 PM
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11. James Dobson asked Christians to pray that Obama's speech would bre rained out.... |
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James Dobson pretends to be Christian, but he sounds more like a demonic presence.
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Sat Sep-06-08 09:52 PM
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8. I think you are absolutely correct, I have thought this for several years |
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but when I mention it to ANYONE, even my husband--they think I am crazy. I have gotten so that I don't mention the real things I think about anymore. I asked my brother-in-law (an R) this afternoon just who we might think brought up this Palin name to be VP candidate. I had first asked my BIL if he had ever heard of her, which he hadn't, but he had a very nice quick answer as to who recommended her. Jack Kemp--well I doubt that. My husband thinks all of the problems come from some wanting to protect Isreal and some not agreeing on that, but I believe it is much bigger than that. you know those people , the repigs, even with an IQ below 100 would not put palin on the ticket the Mcdumb and expect people to vote for them for the good things they will do in DC. That is a Ha Ha
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Sat Sep-06-08 09:53 PM
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I think the republican machine is in disarray,I think they have no leadership but lots of infighting. I think John mcsame has been wanting this for at least 10 years if not more. I think he ran his last campaign pretty much according to his rules and lost and was trying to run this one according to hid rules but was losing.
I think he has changed campaign leadership several times through this process with the latest being recently.
I think the new leadership was brought in because he was starting to bleed support in the polls and they decided thy had to bring in the scorched Eartha's to save it.
I think they have been trying to put out fires ever since and they haven't had time to concentrate on doing anything competently. I think they know that if they don't shore up the base the base isn't going to show up and the race was essentially over at that point. So i think they went looking for the most fundy person they could find that the American people didn't know but they thought they could prop up to be acceptable.
They found sister sarah. She has proven willing to jump right into bed with the oil industry and has all the values the base loves. Unfortunately like everything else they are doing half assed right now they didn't have time to vet her properly and just threw the dice and hopped for the best.
So far i think its working out ok for them but I think its a clock game. The longer the public gets to look at her the less they will like her. If they can just keep her details quiet long enough they may be able to keep this thing close.
Thats it. I don't think theres any real deep thinking to it. in fact I think the thinking is actually decidedly shallow.
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Sat Sep-06-08 10:01 PM
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12. Perhaps....perhaps not. Good discussion, though. thanks |
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Sat Sep-06-08 10:35 PM
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13. it's all smoke and mirrors |
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....and honestly they don't need anything more than a plausible mirage to energize the base and get them to the polls.
The problem for them is that they need more than their base to win. And Palin has just offended centrists and moderates.
So I don't see any way for them to prevail unless they steal it or do a MIHOP event.
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Sat Sep-06-08 10:46 PM
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14. sort of like they did in 00 and 04, you mean. |
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