There is a post at MyDD from during the convention....it has stunned me.

[madfloridian]

They are suggesting that Howard Dean take the "fall" or be the "scapegoat" for something or other...the post has to do with Clinton's speech so I guess for her not winning.

It is truly shocking to see this.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/8/27/152723/121

First they talk about Hillary's speech. Then they start by saying they now know they were wrong to blame Obama for the way the primary turned out....it was really Dean's fault.

I spoke to a Clinton delegate from Oregon who told me that Hillary's speech inspired him to "see the big picture and not my own feelings about the DNC." He said that a lot of Hillary delegates have been holding Obama responsible for decisions they now believe were Howard Dean's (i.e not putting Hillary in nomination, not allowing a roll call vote) but now "more people are realizing it was Howard Dean and more people are thinking about the future and not their own anger." I question his premise but that's how he, and apparently many others like him, believe.

Here are a few of the more telling comments.

hadn't thought of that but it would be strategically smart of Obama to make Dean the goat. Obama can afford to sacrifice Dean.

Neat, huh?

I'll bet Dean insisted on it. My guess is he is probably tired of the DNC chair anyway (its been a while now that he has been chair) and may retire anyway. He probably won't run for the white house again, so it won't hurt him and given the overwhelming win in VT for Obama, I'd say if he wanted to run for Senator or Governor again, he'd win easily... or maybe a cabinet role or maybe an ambassadorship.

Now that's a good one all the way around. Yep, he begged to be made the scapegoat.

This is a really ugly one...spelling not so good.

If Howard Dean has to take the fall in this case, so bet it. He's the head of the DNC and he's ultimately responsible. I'm sure he's even willing to take the fall in this case.

When a Democrat is sitting in the White House next January 98% will forget about everything and realize that under Dean's watch we've gained control of both houses of Congres and the White House

Yes, I bet he is just so excited about all the blame and the fall guy stuff being directed his way. :eyes:

guess ol' Howard is gonna have to take one for the team.

I am and will forever be a Deaniac at heart - and I'll follow that man to the gates of hell.

I was one of many that worked hard to get him elected DNC chair - and I'm also one of many that think he's played a big role in us "taking our party back"...

For pushing through the 50 state strategy - for spreading DNC resources around to areas that desolate Dem areas - I personally am thrilled with his performance as DNC chair.

That said... There's too much at stake, and too many much, much more important battles to fight than fighting over a guy whose term will be up in less than a year, and per tradition, almost certainly won't run again.

Isn't that sweet? Sounds just like my state sounds all the time. Since no Democrat ever told the truth about what happened here....it is decided that they need a scapegoat.

Jerome Armstrong...how in the world did your blog which sustained us during the last few years become almost like that of Larry Johnson. For Christ's sake, you were on the Dean campaign. How did you let your blog disintegrate like this.

Don't you feel all warm and cozy inside after reading that.

Hubby and I will vote for Obama, work for his campaign, donate to him.

But I have seen a side of this party that I can not comprehend. I am not sure where we are going now.

[smiley_glad_hands]

1. Obama wins in Nov. and no one will care what these people have to say. eom

[madfloridian]

2. I will. I live among it daily.

I will care deeply. It is because Florida Democrats and the Hillary campaign never took responsibility for telling lies about my state and the primary. That's sad.

[madfloridian]

3. This is a terrible comment.

"Some people are angry about how the process is being handled, I would argue justifiably so. But there is not much Obama himself can do to address their anger, the political tasks before him preclude that. Instead he can give them an outlet for their anger. Dean is nominally in charge of the convention (Obama and Hillary have the real power) and does not represent a constituency that Obama is concerned about losing, so he is expendable.

[madfloridian]

4. "constituency he is not concerned about losing"

That says it all, doesn't it?

Another way to say it...screw "us".