How can I respond to the latest McCain ad (the "sex ed" one)?

[FVZA_Colonel]

I let myself get sucked into an email argument over its validity with someone who maintains it was about "just" comprehensive sex education, and not about protecting children. A stupid thing to let happen, but what are the full sources on the bill itself, and what it was meant to do? I've been looking at the bill itself, as well as a few editorial comments, but I'm not sure what to directly respond with in any way.

On Edit: Damn, that was a simple misspelling, I can't believe I didn't see it.

[mrJJ]

1. Ask if they support Pedophilia

The new faction of the GOP:

the rebranded Grand Ole Pedophile leader John McCain speaks out... How many in his "new" party agree?

McCain's commercial proves that he is against children learning to protect themselves against being molested. The dishonorable John McCain is against children being taught how to tell someone if they are being molested. John McCain needs to explain why he is pro-pedophile and anti-child.

[FVZA_Colonel]

2. I guess I'm just looking for hard proof that this was the reason it was written.

I'd heard as much, but had not seen anything definitive. I'm going to keep searching, but any help would be appreciated.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

8. Here you go...

From a year ago, back when McCain still had his dignity.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/07/19/277886.aspx

[FVZA_Colonel]

10. Thank you.

The info inside will certainly be of help.

[demo dutch]

3. The bill he supported was about protecting young children against pedophiles

so since McCain doesn't support that bill, h seems to be ok with not helping children at risk for and identfy possible sexual abuse

[woo me with science]

4. Tell them what the program really does,

and ask them if they could possibly be against this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7012560&mesg_id=7012560

[endthewar]

5. Great response!

:patriot:

[EC]

6. Very simple

The bill was to teach children to scream and run when approached by a stranger. Also to teach parents to have secret code words if a stranger shows up at their school to pick them up. It was to protect children against preditors. So is mccain saying he doesn't think kids should know how to protect themselves?

[FVZA_Colonel]

7. Maybe I overlooked this, or saw an incomplete version of the bill, but I found this amongst its

ammendments:

(11) (8) Course material and instruction shall teach pupils to not make unwanted physical and verbal sexual advances and how to say no to unwanted sexual advances and shall include information about verbal, physical, and visual sexual harassment, including without limitation nonconsensual sexual advances, nonconsensual physical sexual contact, and rape by an acquaintance. The course material and instruction shall contain methods of preventing sexual assault by an acquaintance, including exercising good judgment and avoiding behavior that impairs one's judgment. The course material and instruction shall emphasize personal accountability and respect for others and Pupils shall be taught that it is wrong to take advantage of or to exploit another person. The material and instruction shall also encourage youth to resist negative peer pressure. The course material and instruction shall inform pupils of the potential legal consequences of sexual assault by an acquaintance. Specifically, pupils shall be advised that it is unlawful to touch an intimate part of another person as specified in the Criminal Code of 1961.


Assuming this is a valid ammendment, it seems pretty definitive on what was supposed to be done.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. ** Ad **. It's short for Advertisement. Apparently the article McCain quotes slams McCain too. nt

[FVZA_Colonel]

11. Thanks for pointing that out.

I can't believe I missed it.

[GoesTo11]

12. Point out that McCain is a lying sack of

[ContinentalOp]

13. The other silly thing is that the part I read just said K-12.

Which is a generic term for public school education. That doesn't mean sex-ed for kindergarteners. It was just a blanket "sex ed that takes place in k-12 schools" law. Meaning not Universities. This whole thing is idiotic.

[ContinentalOp]

14. I mean think of it this way:

Senator McCain, do you support the presence of military recruiters in K-12 schools? "Yes"

"McCain supports military recruitment of kindergarteners!"