Palin on ABC: FORGET about her now

[LuckyTheDog]

Based on the clips I saw, I think it is no longer necessary to attack Palin strongly. Our side needs to comment somewhat on the worst things she said. But, for the most part, we can let her nervous, unsure demeanor speak for itself as Americans digest the YouTube clips.

From now on, the focus needs to be all McCain, all the time. Palin has neutralized herself.

[BeyondGeography]

1. Oh bullshit...she's the only thing propping up Grandpa

:thumbsdown:

[LuckyTheDog]

5. Ignore her

She's like the Nazis who march in public. She is powerful if we give here power by acting like she deserves a serious response. But, left to rant on her own, she reveals herself to be silly and shallow. She deserves to be dismissed from now on.

[Larry in KC]

51. Except that she's a couple of small leaps from being in real power...

...like those other Nazis that it didn't work to ignore, as they manuevered themselves into power.

We need to be very careful, very vigilant.

[fascisthunter]

10. sayeth the corporate media and RNC cheerleaders

[anigbrowl]

39. Did you see her? She clearly doesn't have a clue.

In what respect, Charlie?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z75QSExE0jU

[Jokinomx]

44. This link should be it's own thread.... She is lame... wow...

She DIDN'T know what the "Bush Doctrine" was. Then "Charlie" had to tell her and she couldn't answer. She would be a laughing stock to the world if she actually became president. McCain says "Country First!" ... How could he risk our nation with someone with ZERO foreign policy experience. ZERO He bowed to the fundamentalists wishes to put a Pro-lifer on the ticket. ... not the type of leader I want.

[krkaufman]

48. And if she is shown to be unfit, then McCain's judgment is shown to be deficient.

The two are linked. And critiquing Palin doesn't preclude direct assaults on McCain.

[crazy_vanilla]

50. yeeeaaaah

In a creepy May-December romance kind of way:puke:

[Motown_Johnny]

2. We need to focus on McCain's terrible choice of a running mate

[democrat2thecore]

8. First executive decision as nominee - blew it - we cannot TRUST McCain to make the right decisions -

[LuckyTheDog]

13. Sure, use her to attack McCain

But she is not worth our time for any other purpose.

[ContinentalOp]

17. You can't use her to attack McCain if people actually like her and think she's "real" -nt-

[earthlover]

35. This IS a good argument

Contrast Obama to McCain on their first executive decision. Obama picked someone with experience and credentials. Someone who could step in as president in a heart beat.

McCain picked someone who he thought would gain himself votes, even though not at all ready to step in as president, a 72 year old heart beat away.....

[classof56]

3. I agree--but will still keep my guard up. n/t

[awoke_in_2003]

43. Agree totally...

remember how bad Bush looked against Kerry in the debates. Every one was sure that the debates were the nails in bush's coffin.

[AllentownJake]

4. Hit them both.

Hit McCain as out of touch and with Bush Policies and hit her as being a heartbeat away from the Vice Presidency.

[peacebird]

6. Tweety just praised her to the skies on her take on the Bush Doctrine.

He said that she put a higher standard on the preemptive strike than Bush, therefore she isn't a hawk. He also gushed over her saying that we "is the intelligence was there, then we had a right to attack - no - an obligation" (paraphrased)

[liskddksil]

7. physics: its a beatiful thing

What goes up...must come down

[JuniperLea]

9. The more McCain and Palin talk, the better for Obama!

I only saw a tiny bit of the interview posted on rawstory... she's a freaking loon if she thinks her mindless babbling is going to convince anyone she's ready for this gig.

What a freak she is! How the hell do people like that get into positions of power!!?!??!?! Oh, wait... Bush... Yeah, I know.

[Alhena]

11. Air is definitely leaving the Palin balloon

[27inCali]

12. You hit it on the head

We shouldn't attack her directly, but rather, we should USE her to attack McCain.

She doesn't know what she's talking about. Gibson tried to walk her through and she still flubbed it.

She just went today from being Grampa's biggest strength to his biggest weakness.

She did not look good in that interview.

Joe wont need to go after her, he just needs to be polite and make his answers sharp and to the point so that people can stay awake throught he answers long enough to see he understands what the fuck he is talking about - and just let it contrast against her flustered, scatter-shot answers.

HOW MANY WORKING CLASS WOMAN VOTERS WILL WATCH THIS INTERVIEW AND THINK TO THEMSELVES, "FUCK, I'VE NEVER HELD OFFICE AND I COULD OF ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS BETTER, SHE'S TOTALLY UNQUALIFIED, THEY THINK I'LL VOTE FOR A TOTAL IDIOT JUST BECAUSE SHE'S A WOMAN? -FUCK THAT!"

We can only hope.

[LuckyTheDog]

18. Excactly

She is useful as a club with which to beat McCain. But Palin does not deserve the legitimacy that comes from being taken seriously in her own right.

[Motown_Johnny]

14. I think the best approach now is to call her irrelevant at every opportunity

[ContinentalOp]

32. She is urgently relevant.

She thinks that war with Russia is a viable option. She belongs to a church that is hoping to wait out the rapture in their Alaskan refuge. She will very possibly end up as Vice President of the United States and will be just one skin cancer or alzheimers episode away from being the President and having her trigger happy finger on the button.

I'm sorry that I don't find this "irrelevant" or think she is easily dismissible but the stakes are way to high to just let her slide by with her manufactured "hockey mom" image.

[anigbrowl]

40. The point is that she's manifestly incapable of doing the job

So 'irrelevant' in the sense that we should stop acknowledging even the possibility of her being a competent VP or President.

[Patsy Stone]

15. "I don't know if the task is from God, Charlie."

She doesn't know? Hint: I know; and I'm not running for VP.

How many times exactly did she say terror/terrorist/kill? A lot!

Terra! Terra! Terra!

ed: quote

[JuniperLea]

31. God didn't help her with this interview...

I doubt She's interested in making Palin VP:)

[Patsy Stone]

36. I was hoping

her theme song would be Jesus, Take The Wheel.

[ContinentalOp]

16. NOW is the time that we need to follow through with some attacks.

You can't just let her flub around on the Bush doctrine thing and then not say anything about it. The majority of the audience probably doesn't know what it is either and won't even realize she screwed up. So we need to hammer her on that point until it becomes an issue that the media can't ignore.

[LuckyTheDog]

24. Like I said

We should pick out some of her worst comments and dismiss them. But she does not deserve to be engaged as if she is a serious candidate.

[ContinentalOp]

27. Huh? Who's engaging her as a serious candidate?

All I see here are people pointing out her lies, ridiculous statements, and terrible things she's done in office. I don't see anyone seriously debating the finer points of her opinions or anything. But she does need to be taken seriously in the sense that she is insane and dangerous.

In fact, if people just kind of laugh her off and dismiss her as a lightweight that reinforces the idea that the attacks are just bitter sexism. We need to take her at her word, take her ideas and statements seriously, and point out how crazy and dangerous they would be if she got into the White House.

[kwenu]

19. More Palin apologist crap aka "don't pick on the girl."

Palin and McCain need to get their ASSES kicked and kicked continually until November 5, 2008. Get that through your head please because we aren't falling for that crap. Palin is going to be treated like every other veep candidate that came before her. There is no "she's a girl" exception.

[LuckyTheDog]

21. That's NOT my argument

Not at all. My argument is that she is an obvious lightweight and we should make that clear by more or less ignoring her and refusing to take her seriously.

[ContinentalOp]

23. Yes, we ignore her at our own peril. She's basically the head of the ticket now...

and we need to reinforce that message. The more we talk about her and make her the main event, the more McCain is emasculated. Of course we also have to point that out and get that message in people's heads.

Why is McCain hiding behind his VP pick?

[anigbrowl]

41. That's not what the OP was saying.

She isn't even worthy of being treated as a serious VP candidate, because she's demonstrably clueless.

[RagAss]

20. Thanks Sarah...now go get me a beer !

[bettyellen]

37. right after you crawl out of yourcave and kiss her ass.

sorry, archie bunker, that shit doesn;t fly here.

[RagAss]

45. Go kiss McCain's Ass

[bettyellen]

49. after your mom stops sucking on it, sure....

[MercutioATC]

22. She's still the "talent". She's the draw. We need to take her down.

Reveal her as the caricature she is and the enthusiasm goes away...they're left with McCain.

...and by all means, show McCain desperately trying to prop her up. Makes him look all the more feeble.

[City of Mills]

25. How about half of us focus on McCain, and the other half on Palin

See? We need more compromise here. We can even do 60/40 in a pinch.

[Disturbed]

29. I strongly suspect that she was prepped & given a list of

possible questions so that she could prepare. All the questions on the list were not going to be asked but she most likely was prepared for them all, like a person that is prepping as witness in a trial. Dismissing her as stupid is a mistake. She is clever & highly ambitious. If America has more time to really get to know her most would not vote for McClown just because she is on the ticket.

[Frumious B]

26. After Bush's performance in that first debate in 2004 I was convinced he was finished.

I just KNEW that he had blown the election then and there. Unfortunately, it didn't quite work out that way. People still went out and voted for Bush even after that total implosion of a debate. I certainly wouldn't underestimate that capacity of people to overlook Sarah Palin's very obvious to us shortcomings.

[ContinentalOp]

28. Exactly. Nobody who is undecided is going to be smart enough to pick up on the Bush doctrine gaffe.

Or any of her other crazy statements. We need to hammer these points in order to cut through the MSM noise.

[seabeyond]

30. jugular..... she pissed me off. i am a woman and for me it was the hugest slap what repugs did to

women. there is no way i am going to let this go..... ever

[Trajan]

33. Notwithstanding the absolute wisdom of every DU poster ...

Im guessing I should consider such advice with a grain of salt ....

Take nothing for granted ....

Nothing ...

[Trajan]

34. Damn buggy DU ...

The first attempt to post ended with an error message, AND a post ....

[leeroysphitz]

38. Always attack your enemies strengths.

It may be a bit of a stretch to describe Governor Palin as a "strength" for the ticket but the truth is Palin is the only reason anybody has even mentioned McCain in the last two weeks. I say sweep the knee.

[chill_wind]

42. Tie her around his neck. Undermining her on the issues undermines McCain.

[blitzen]

46. Exactly...and it calls his judgment into serious question

[flamingdem]

47. McSame is a jerk who says he is out for revenge against Obama

What a looser. We have to work for a huge landslide against this pathetic candidate.