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Thu Sep-11-08 09:22 PM
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Is Barack spending his campaign cash wisely? |
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We all know he's raking in gobs of cash. Personally, this is most I have ever donated to any politician. So fellow Dems, does it seem like he's spending it wisely? With his numbers in the polls sagging, is he sitting on his huge pile of cash, waiting for the final weeks? What's the deal?
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:22 PM
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:23 PM
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2. I think so... I haven't seen any evidence of waste. |
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The local office here is as barebones as you can get.
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:23 PM
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I think it was wrong of him to buy that solid gold toilet seat. |
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Also, the diamond crusted cigars were a gamble.
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:23 PM
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3. His numbers aren't "sagging", they're being manipulated by the right. |
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:23 PM
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4. It sounds like the solid ground game is kicking a**. AnswerL YES nt |
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:23 PM
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:23 PM
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6. Look matey, he is not sagging! Give it a rest! |
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he knows what he is doing. Don't listen to the GOP
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:23 PM
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:24 PM
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8. He's not sitting on the money he's using it for the "ground campaign" |
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Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 09:24 PM by thecorrection
His campaign has created the largest grassroots voter reg drive this nation has seen. Forget the polls, we've registered 1 million+ voters.
Plus the polls don't mean shit, look at the Electoral vote count. We're ahead there and that's how you win the election.
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:31 PM
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I'm glad to hear it. I really didn't know the answer, that's why I asked the question.
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:52 PM
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40. Glad I could answer. Welcome to DU. |
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:55 PM
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I appreciate your courtesy, and seriousness in answering my question. As opposed to the rude sarcasm by others on this thread.
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:24 PM
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9. He's using it to wipe his ass. |
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:33 PM
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Surely he could find better ways to use it:)
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:34 PM
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24. I also saw him using his lighter to set a $1,000 bill on fire in order to light a cigarette. |
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While giving the OP the middle finger.
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Thu Sep-11-08 10:02 PM
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:25 PM
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11. we're having a huge party with your money, you're welcome. |
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Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 09:34 PM by chimpsrsmarter
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:25 PM
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12. Alright ignore the polls. |
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Is he still spending it wisely? It's a fair question. I'm in the Denver media market and McCain ads seem to outnumber Obama abaout 3-1.
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:45 PM
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31. So are you PO'd that he's spending it on the ground game? |
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I think person-to-person is a damn fine way to campaign.
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:48 PM
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I think that has been phenomenal. I guess my concern is television commercials. Again, at least here in the Denver media market, McCain's been airing a lot more than he has. I just know, for better or worse, commercials do matter.
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:25 PM
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13. He's using all the money to build 6, 7 or 10 more houses to compete with McCain |
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:28 PM
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14. Mangaging to smear Obama *and* the 50 state strategy within six sentences and not a single typo... |
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you're better than most. You picked your ID wisely, you are indeed an aggressive ass.
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:32 PM
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21. It's a question I didn't know the answer to. |
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:29 PM
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He's totally blowing it all on rimz for his peeps.
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Thu Sep-11-08 10:38 PM
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62. Be sure to pony up more.. |
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the 22" rims are big money....
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:30 PM
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16. How would we measure that? |
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:30 PM
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17. How would we measure that? |
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:31 PM
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19. They must have a plan. Because I don't see where he is spending it |
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:32 PM
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20. One thing that would help |
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would be if he could take minimal ad buys and have the ads played round the clock for 2 days on all the major news shows. That would give a lot more mileage for the money.
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:33 PM
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23. Yes, the man is brilliant. He beat the Clinton machine and ran it 20 million into debt. He knows |
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:35 PM
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Good to hear. I just wish he was doing better nationally, that's all. That's why I was concerned. I pay attention to the polls even if some of you don't. To each his own I guess.
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:50 PM
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35. Electoral Collage polls are all that count.. check this one out (Link) |
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:52 PM
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38. I agree and check that site religiously. |
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But that's only a 3-state pick up this week, when just last week his electoral vote count was 300+. This is the only reason why I raised this concern.
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:34 PM
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You should call campaign headquarters and ask them.
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:36 PM
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27. You give becuause you support what your candidate stands for. |
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No one is promised or guaranteed anything. Howerver, you need not worry, Senator Obama has managed his billions wisely and will continued to do so. You know, he has had to budget and manage more in campaign donations that Palin has had to manage in the budget of her under populated state.
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:37 PM
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28. wtf. man there are some odd questions out tonight. who the fuck cares. i am going to |
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assume. but right now there are a hell of a lot of more important issues on my radar besides how he is spending his money. as a matter of fact that isnt even on my list
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:41 PM
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30. It should be on your list. |
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Ask Senator Kerry about the importance of spending money. He chose a few targeted states like Colorado, and in those targeted states, Dems did well (the Salazar Bros.) even if he didn't win CO. If your state wasn't targeted, then Democrats had problems up and down the ballot in 2004.
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:55 PM
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41. i have my own thoughts on colo and big difference between now and then |
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with dean running dnc. if you have been paying attention you would know how much obama is working the ground....
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:57 PM
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43. I've been paying attention. |
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Probably more than you. My concern is television. Commercials are powerful, for better or worse.
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:48 PM
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33. Yes, as his campaign manager pointed out in an article... |
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With heavy advertising, you can move the election number one to two points.
By investing in a comprehensive voter recruitment organization, you can move the election numbers as much as five to six points.
Obama's investing in the bigger payoff. And those numbers don't show up in polls.
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:50 PM
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34. I think you could be right. |
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I wish the "McCain convention bounce" would begin to subside though.
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:59 PM
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45. It has almost completely subsided except for the Gallup poll... |
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And they lessened the number of Democrats and raised the number of Republicans so of course, their polls changed.
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Thu Sep-11-08 10:04 PM
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49. I don't trust polls as much as most of you. |
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But what other barometer do we have? That's why I was concerned. Also, I remember Doug Wilder's narrow win, and Tom Bradley's heartbreaking loss.
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:50 PM
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36. I smell pizza. Wonder how long until it's ready. |
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:51 PM
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37. is mccain't spending his cash wisely? he's raking it in |
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:52 PM
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39. You could fucking donate to DU, for instance... |
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:58 PM
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44. I send directly to the politicians. |
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Thu Sep-11-08 09:59 PM
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46. Maybe the poster wants a full accounting from the campaign before donating. |
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That, or just balls the size of, um..pizzas?
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Thu Sep-11-08 10:02 PM
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47. Or maybe I asked a question because I was curious. |
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I thought you were Democrats - why are some of you so rude? You sound like the other side.
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Thu Sep-11-08 10:21 PM
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51. Oh, wait...I KNOW, I KNOW!!!! |
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Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 10:21 PM by cliffordu
Go to Obama's website and read the figures.....
Or you could fire up the ol' GOOGLE and check it out!!
And, by the way...
IBTL!!!!!
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Thu Sep-11-08 10:29 PM
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57. In Before The Lock.... |
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if a thread creates too much annoyance, the mods lock it.....
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Thu Sep-11-08 10:28 PM
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56. We get nicer the longer you're here....well, some of us at least... |
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don't take it too personally, there are members who come to make trouble....it will pass...
Oh, and Republicans don't have a monopoly of rude, that's fer sure!!!
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Thu Sep-11-08 10:39 PM
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Thu Sep-11-08 10:56 PM
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66. It's a little like initiation, but there's good reason behind our wariness, too. |
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It's like traveling to Italy.
:thumbsup:
Welcome to DU!
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I thought it was a reasonable query.
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68. Here are other similar questions that could be met with suspicion: |
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'Where's Hillary"
"Where's Biden"
"Obama should have picked Hillary"
If these come from a member who hasn't donated, and/or has a low post count, and/or is relatively new, it's met with dark humor and sometimes outright anger because this is too important an election to let freepers or trolls come here and mess with our minds or stir shit.
Know what I mean?
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Thu Sep-11-08 11:09 PM
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But tough questions should be allowed. They get people to think and discuss and debate.
And thanks for your courtesy! As a New Yorker, are you guys to get rid of the last 6 Republicans you have in Congress? I think you can do it. Reynolds and Walsh are retiring, and Massa is vulnerable. And dorky.
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Thu Sep-11-08 11:12 PM
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71. Ahh, Massa's the Dem! My bad. |
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I meant Randy Kuhl. He's the dork.
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Thu Sep-11-08 11:15 PM
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74. I'm in California now, I am an SKP from NYC. |
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Tough questions are fine, but need to be phrased tactfully.
Like, a poll of how DUers think he'll spend his warchest.
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Thu Sep-11-08 11:20 PM
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76. I see, thanks for your help. |
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Thu Sep-11-08 11:23 PM
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You could donate a small amount at DU and get a star, maybe less crap from members.
Like you, I never donated until Obama, hundreds through his website but some here too because it's a good cause for us and for Obama.
::hi:
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Thu Sep-11-08 11:12 PM
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72. No sheeit, I'm on the goon squad, according to a late great concerned individual |
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Shoulda bookmarked that thread.
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Thu Sep-11-08 10:04 PM
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48. Balls the size of pizzas.... |
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Thu Sep-11-08 10:25 PM
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54. What is your problem dude? |
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59. I just think he had a "visual", that's all... |
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Thu Sep-11-08 11:14 PM
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73. Yep, I got kicked once..... |
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75. OUCH, well, thanks for THAT visual.. |
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Thu Sep-11-08 10:22 PM
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52. I hear he's wasting it on shovels for the people of Iowa |
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Thu Sep-11-08 10:27 PM
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55. The campaign knows what they are doing.... We would not have gotten this far it they didn't |
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Thu Sep-11-08 10:31 PM
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The one good thing the Obama campaign is doing is spending a lot of money in developing the ground game. That will not only help Obama get votes, it will help him raise money and help Democrats in general.
What he needs to figure out is how to dominate the MSM with positive news about his campaign, rather that all the b.s. that's around. His campaign so far has been a disappointment in that regard.
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Thu Sep-11-08 10:33 PM
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60. that's a fair question to ask, not that it will be treated fairly |
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on this website.
Considering that he outspent his opponent by two to one overall in the primaries and barely won, it is a legit question. Was the money being put to it's best use? I don't know. You would think with that kind of advantage he would have done better.
I understand he's putting a lot of money into registering new voters and get out the vote efforts... This sort of thing may not show up in the polling, so it's hard to judge how effective those efforts are until election day. We just have to believe in Barrack - we have to believe that he's doing the right thing and using his money wisely.
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So Medicine Bow has the internet now?
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Thu Sep-11-08 10:43 PM
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65. Well, I thought it was. |
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To put it in perspective (as you yourself deduced!), I'm in the interior Rocky Mountain west, where the ground game is not as obvious as the commercials during the local news. And being inundated with McCain's bullshit has me irked, so I just wanted to make sure our team was on top of things.
And Medicine Bow may have the internet, but Pony Express is still our primary modus operandi.
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Thu Sep-11-08 10:35 PM
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61. thanks for your concern |
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Thu Sep-11-08 10:39 PM
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64. I'll take his campaign's judgement on that before yours and before mine |
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after all, not only did he win that primary race after coming out of nowhere, he won the primary money race and is contesting this election in many states we couldn't have dreamed of competing in previously.
this is partly due to wise money management.
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69. I think the main thing Obama's camp is GREAT at is handling $$$. Wait, & ye shall receive. nt |
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Thu Sep-11-08 11:20 PM
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77. Obama's campaign doesn't have the $$ to send out a million fake-o ballots in Ohio |
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