2 New Obama Ads--Verdict: THEY SUCK

[Placebo]

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/9/12/6434/07836

One must ask, after all that's been lobbed at him by McCain/Palin over the past week, is this the best Obama can do?

Does he want to lose?

*shakes head*

[spanone]

1. it's called 'change'

nwmhtt

[Upton]

2. He's trying to treat Americans like adults

unfortunately I don't think that's going to work....where are the attack ads we we're promised?

[Placebo]

4. I'm wondering as well.

I thought they were going to turn up the heat post 9/11? :shrug:

[Shiver]

10. Perhaps it was a psych-out?

Announce stronger attacks, causing them to worry, then come out with these lightly snarky ones, all the while planning the real hard-hitting, damaging stuff for later on?


~Shiver

[Placebo]

13. Who has that sort of time to waste?

Every day between now and election day is precious.

[bdamomma]

8. but isn't it time to act and be adults.

this is how the repigs have branded us all as stupid uninformed Americans. (which I will admit some are)

and get responses like GO SHOPPING. so many Americans have been brainwashed by this filthy administration, and the media.


we have to snap out of this stupor.

[GoesTo11]

43. This is less adult than really calling them to task would be

When the Republicans have lied us into war, stolen half the economy, divided the country by race, religion and region, the mature thing to do is to say that and say it's unacceptable. Be honest, but stand up for our beliefs. That's more adult than just kind of indicating that we need change - that sounds more like a high school student.

[codjh9]

17. Right - and half the public are children dressed up in suits (immature, in other words)

[Dawgs]

21. You're right. He's trying to treat Americans like Kerry did.

It's sad.

[WinkyDink]

29. That has never worked. Well, since the 18th C., anyway.

[against all enemies]

44. Dumb idea - They don't like to think.

[jakem]

3. thanks for that constructive review.

:eyes:

[thereismore]

5. Whose verdict? I think your verdict sucks and Obama is right on. nt

[Dawgs]

22. Attacking McCain on his ability to send emails is the best Obama can do?

You agree with that?

[napi21]

6. I don't see anything wrong with them! In fact I really liked the

"Change" one. The "Still" isn't AS GOOD, but it's not BAD!

[Placebo]

9. But c'mon....

Are these ads not "spitballs" (to quote crazy Zell Miller) when the McCain camp has been firing bullets?

[napi21]

19. It may be a "spitball" but I've seen several pretty good ones from

the Dem 527's that were just put up today. I happen to think Obama is right on not having his campaign put out the nasty ones. It would undercut the image he has tried so hard to sell. Im GLAD he release the 527's though.

[Jennicut]

7. Negative lobbyist ad coming out soon

Also, Obama is showing McLame as out of touch. They have more than two negative ads coming.

[Skwmom]

15. I saw the lobbyist ad. It is EXCELLENT. That's why you probably won't see it on CNN or MSNBC.

OR if you do it will be when viewer ratings are low.

[Maven]

40. Sorry, I think attacking ties to lobbyists is still bringing a knife to a gunfight

when you have McCain running the "wolves" ad, telling people Obama wants to teach kindergartners how to have sex and saying Obama has been "disrespectful" (wink, wink) toward Palin.

[elocs]

11. Yes, he wants to lose. Obama is secretly in league with the Republicans to lose the election.

Unfortunately, or fortunately, thanks to you the secret is out.

On edit, note to Obama: all future tv ads must be previewed and approved by the DU "We Know How to Run Your Campaign the Best" advisory board.

[Skwmom]

12. Obama just had EXCELLENT ads on in VA.

Mydd, big Clinton backers, so want Obama to lose but just don't want to be blamed. Hey, why don't you put the country before the Clintons and work to get Obama elected?

[Placebo]

14. What?

This has nothing to do with Clinton and everything to do with Obama. The primaries are over, okay?

[President_Obama]

16. I guess you would rather him just call McCain the Antichrist

then you would be happy, right?

do you really want to win?

*shakes spear*

[renie408]

23. I could live with that...n/t

[President_Obama]

24. you could live with being just like the enemy??

[Upton]

26. I could live with winning

personally I don't care what it takes. If Obama is going to lose, at least go down swinging.

[President_Obama]

31. the Big Lie doesn't work for Democrats because on average we're far more intelligent than Repugs

and the Repugs who buy McCain's Big Lies would never vote Democratic.

Obama's not going down.
And he is swinging, just not lying.

[nxylas]

46. The big lie doesn't work for Democrats because they'd get called on it

Republicans can say that up is down and day is night and the corporate media will never challenge them. But a Democrat can be pilloried across every news network for something his preacher said or an essay his wife wrote when she was in college.

[still_one]

18. First of all, do you really believe after 8 years of republican rule

after mccain who has voted 90% with bush, and after both mccain and his VP cavilier position on war, that people don't know where both sides stand?

This election is really quite simple, it is about what America really is.

If they want more of bush, they will vote for mccain.
If they want roe overturned, they will vote for mccain.
If they want privitized social security and medicare, they will vote for mccain

In other words, if they are happy with the last 8 years they will vote for mccain

Incidently, my money is that Obama is going to win

[TexasObserver]

20. Obama had better start hitting back with more than feathers.

I don't usually agree with the talking heads who pan Obama's ads, but these two are ridiculously weak. Someone needs to tell him he's running for president, he's not running to show us he's the perfect Christian.

Take the gloves off, O, or you're going home to the NICE GUYS FINISH LAST REUNION with Mondale and Dukakis.

[WI_DEM]

25. that's your opinion, I thought they were fine.

[Onlooker]

27. This is what the Obama campaign calls hard hitting?

The change ad makes light of McCain's lack of computer skills. A lot of people don't even know why it would be important that he knows how to use a computer. That ad was crap.

[bkcc]

28. I somewhat agree.

The "Change" ad is a nice adult-sounding piece, but the one talking about McCain's age seems like it's just name-calling. It comes across as petty.

[shadowknows69]

30. I love em

[cliffordu]

32. Fail.

[BlueIdaho]

33. Nothing wrong with these ads

First ad = ISSUES, we win on issues.

Second ad = McCain = Bush and failed policies, we win when we tie McCain to his republican party.

You expected a World Wrestling Federation call out?

[barack the house]

35. Totally agree they were stealing Obama's narrative he just reowned it perfect plus the wildlife ad.

[barack the house]

36. Totally agree they were stealing Obama's narrative he just reowned it perfect plus the wildlife ad.

[barack the house]

34. I think they are just right along with the wildlife ad they are perfect Obama needed to reown change

[Egnever]

37. Your verdict Sucks

I like both of those ads.

[FloridaGrl]

38. What should Obama do?

Some people will never be satisfied. There will always be whiners. I think those two ads are exactly what we need to see. Do you want him to become McNasty? If he changes his tone and becomes too negative: a) the repubs will say politics as usual and that he's not for change b) the media will pick up on it and saying he has changed his stance and they will rip him to shreds. Come on people. Stop whining.

[PresidentObama]

39. I agree, they HAVE to be more hard hitting than this.

Saying John McCain doesn't know how to use a computer.

This is it?

I want an advertisement that calls him out for lying about a bill that protects kids from sexual predators, and claims Obama wants sex education for kids. Imagine if Obama put out an advertisement that shows McCain supporting Bush 90% of the time, and says he's embracing Rove politics and is lying about Barack Obama's education record. That would outrage people. Most people don't know the truth about McCain's education ad, and it's hard hitting. We have to hit back.

Or what about these advertisements claiming sexism? Obama should call it false, and have an advertisemnt on his record vs. McCain's on womens issues. Hit McCain on equal pay.

We can do better than this.

[FloridaGrl]

42. I am sure

these aren't his last two ads.

[terrya]

41. Thanks for taking time from running your own political campaign to chime in on this.

Since you seem to know exactly how effective these ads will be.

[Name removed]

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