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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 11:58 AM
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Is there anything MORE SEXIST than charging Rape Victims for rape kits they need?
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 12:06 PM by blm
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Really think about this in the context of what the RW ers really think. Remember all the years when we had RW sheriffs and judges who advised that women should lay back and enjoy it? Now the RWers want women to lay back, enjoy it, and PAY FOR IT AFTERWARDS.

THAT is what RW ignorance has wrought in this country, and the fact that both John McCain AND Sarah Palin believe women should pay for their own rape kits is indicative of that sexist mindset. Sarah Palin charges the state a per diem for living in her own house, while she made sure to squeeze money out of female victims for their own rapes.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 11:59 AM
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1. Which group will do this ad? Planned Parenthood? NOW? Get your donation ready.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 11:59 AM
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2. It is sexist...
people don't get charged for the investigation when their homes are broke in to. It is sick to charge a rape victim for part of the investigation.
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TooBigaTent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:00 PM
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3. Since the pukes support rape as a political tactic, it only makes sense that they would do
everything they can to discourage prosecution.

If the victim cannot afford the kit, there is no evidence.

Obvious.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:03 PM
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5. That's Palin's fiscal responsibility at work. Why spend money on an expensive
investigation when you can stop the complaint right at the victim?

See how smart she is? :sarcasm:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:56 PM
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8. She's a Values Voters dream. If you only value a buck, that is.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:09 PM
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9. which also preempts having to give the victim a morning after pill.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:02 PM
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4. Forcing them to give birth, I suppose.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:03 PM
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6. Of course it's sexist and shows an attitude that either many women are lying about rape (why charge
the taxpayers for some woman's lie?) or that rape is not a serious crime. But beyond that, I think the main purpose of the policy is to keep women from filing charges. If you knew that an investigation of your rape was going to cost you hundreds or a thousand, and you were of limited means, would you still go ahead and file charges? Or would you just live with it, being that rape is an emotionally difficult crime for women to report anyway (very underreported)? So Palin has the added benefit of a police force that is not tied up investigating so many rapes, the crime stats go down for the city, and everyone except the victim is happy.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:08 PM
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7. solid point....especially about the perception of crime rate.
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 12:09 PM by blm
Wow - this type of manipulation must really make RWers feel like heroes.
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Blue Meany Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:20 PM
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11. I suspect Wasilla had a high rate of rape...
More than 2% of the Wasilla residents are convicted sex offenders and Alaska has the highest rate of rape of any state. But these stats only include convictions, which are a minority of cases, so you can figure that rape is a pretty significant social problem there.

Let's remember, too, that McCain made jokes about rape and voted against Biden's bill to provide federal funding for rape tests.

This stuff really ought to be used in adds.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:10 PM
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10. Actually raping women is probably more sexist
but that kind of goes without saying, I guess.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:28 PM
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12. Sexist in terms of government leadership.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:30 PM
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13. In your opinion men don't get raped? - now that's sexist
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:33 PM
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14. Did I offer that as my opinion? I am referring specifically to what happened in Wasilla and
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 02:38 PM by blm
charging victims for rape kits.

What story are YOU referring to in your post?

Is there a story on the table about Democrats denying men get raped that I missed recently? And why would you pretend I opined that men don't get raped? Can you point out where I have ever made such an absurd claim?
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CampDem Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:09 PM
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15. Another aspect to this horrendous problem is that nearly half of rape victims in Alaska
are Alaska Native women. In Anchorage, native women are nearly 10 times more likely to be a victim of sexual assault. The perpetrators of all races are targeting these women. I have worked with victims here in Anchorage and some that fly in from villages. In rural communities there is limited access to counseling and law enforcement.
I believe that rapes in Alaska are vastly under reported. Women in some villages have shared that they will not go outside without Carhartts on ever because they fear being raped without them.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:42 PM
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19. Geez...that IS under-reported. No media spotlight on this problem, obviously.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:33 PM
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16. Sadly no Democrat Attack Video will ever use this because well, Democrats are wusses
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:39 PM
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18. No, it may blow up in their face
Alaska is not the only state that charges for these kits. There have been some hospitals in Illinois that have reported to have charged for these kits.
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/on-health-and-money/2008/02/21/rape-victims-can-be-hurt-financially-too.html
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:39 PM
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17. I imagine males that were raped would have to pay for it too.
And as for sexism, I don't know if that is the most sexist thing ever.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 04:03 PM
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20. more sexist in terms of this campaign...this IS GD Presidential Forum, isn't it?
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