Sorry, folks, The impending crash really is the fault of the Dems.

[Jackpine Radical]

If they had done a better job of winning elections against Newt & Co. back in '94, there would have been no Republican Revolution, Contract on America and no wild-eyed Republican lunatics like Gramm in charge of the asylum, deregulating everything, and there would have been nothing like this happening.

[terrya]

1. So, are you saying that the impending crash is Bill Clinton's fault?

[Lancer]

4. The way I understand it,

EVERYTHING is Bill Clinton's fault.

[liberalpress]

5. The return of Clenis!

I must say I've missed him

[Fran Kubelik]

18. The CLENIS!

[mcctatas]

29. I miss the Clenis...

I never felt personally threatened by the Clenis, but Sen. McCfuddled and Caribou Barbie scare the shit out of me! :scared:

[Erin Elizabeth]

34. CLENIS POWER!!!

ACTIVATE!

[derby378]

2. I could just as easily say it was because of the semi-auto ban passed in 1994...

...but, gunny that I am, I'd still say the truth is a bit more complicated.

[Breeze54]

3. Have... more... coffee.....

:P

[Alter Ego]

6. *plotzes*

[supernova]

7. Well OK, it was FDR's fault

for dying on us... the putz! :P

[blondeatlast]

10. There ya go. The nerve of that man. nt

[derby378]

11. Good point

How many US Presidents ever got elected to a fourth term? Talk about laying down on the job... :rofl:

[msallied]

41. He was a lazy bastard. I mean, he was always sitting too. What up with that??

Okay, I'm going to hell for that one. Big time. *crosses self* LOL

[Zynx]

8. Impending?

A modern day "crash" will not look like the massive two back to back sell offs in October 1929 on the 28th and the 29th where the market dropped 12% each day. It will be a cascade of events just like we have seen for the last year. Cycles are longer and more drawn out.

[Jackpine Radical]

23. These times are very different from '29 in a lot of ways.

For one thing, there are various circuit-breakers and insurance policies built into the system. It's kinda like they did a lot of stuff to prevent 1929 from ever happening again, and it won't. Something equally bad r (I suspect) worse will happen, but not 1929. I think of how the generals always figure out how to defend against the attacks they faced in the last war, and the next war is always different.

[Zynx]

31. My point is that a "crash" is not the correct term.

That really doesn't happen much anymore. If it has not happened in three generations, it is not inevitable. What will happen though is a long, drawn-out, grinding period of weak growth/recession, rising unemployment, and financial turmoil.

[fascisthunter]

9. no it's NOT!!! It's all... my fault

I knew I shouldn't have walked on that crack on that sidewalk yesterday!!!!

[Jackpine Radical]

15. Step on a crack,

Break Freddy Mac's back...

[ewagner]

12. Unfortunately

It's the Pogo Syndrome

As Pogo prophetically said :"We have met the enemy and HE is US"

The Clintonian policy of triangulation...the surrender to the Repubs in an attempt to achieve "bipartisan" agreement....all those actions...simply strengthened the wingnuts....

The fight is harder now

but we desperately need to win.

[Jackpine Radical]

17. G'mornin', ewag. Another Pogo fan, I see.

Walt Kelley was a genius.

[Lost4words]

13. NAFTA, giving US corps access to cheep foreign labor.

started the ball rolling IMO.

8643

[shadowknows69]

16. I was not a fan of Bill on NAFTA

The potential for abuse was obvious.

[MichDem10]

14. Malloy? Is that you?

[saltpoint]

19. I expressly blame Franklin Pierce.

[Skidmore]

20. So, who did you vote for?

[Jackpine Radical]

21. I voted Democratic, of course.

But I wasn't able to pull them out of the abyss singlehandedly. They went ahead and crashed anyway.

[MikeNearMcChord]

22. I blame that stupid referee who screwed up the fumble call, at the Denver -

San Diego game. Oops wrong thread.:blush:

[demwing]

24. Carter's Fault - NO, Kennedy's fault for leaving the top down,

Because DAMN - it can't ever be the Republican's at fault, they are --after all--the party of no personal responsibility.

[Jackpine Radical]

26. Yes, exactly. When people with no sense of responsibility get in charge

of the levers, all hell breaks loose. That's my point. We never shoulda let those mental midgets get in power in the first place.

[demwing]

32. Then lets be realistic - it's only partly a shared fault

The Dem candidates, the Dem party, the Damn media, and the Dumb voters...all share a SMALL measure of responsibility.

But the overwhelming weight of the blame falls on the party that brought us the evil empire: Reagan, Bush1, Bush2, and McCain. Wiggle all you like, it's an unavoidable conclusion.

[Jackpine Radical]

39. No, that can't be.

Republicans are never at fault.
Never.
Ever.
Ever!!!111!

[Hugabear]

25. I'm going to blame George Washington

If they hadn't gone and broken away from the Empire, we probably wouldn't be having these problems.

[spanone]

27. so the last eight years had nothing to do with our current economy??? c'mon

[Jackpine Radical]

28. My point is that the last 8 years wouldn't have happened like this

If the Dems hadn't let the hogs run the pigsty.

My initial premise is that, as the Republicans have always assured us, everything is the fault of the Democrats. I then search for ways in which stuff was their fault. The answer usually turns out to be that it was the fault of the Democrats because they didn't drown the Republicans in the bathtub when they were small. And God knows why not. Unlike, say, wolverines, Republicans aren't cute when they're young.

[barack the house]

30. Let's keep the titles a little more motivational even if the subject is not so.

[Runcible Spoon]

33. ..........................huh?

:crazy:

umm....RA RA RA! YAY DLC DEMOCRATS!

Fuck Pelosi and Co. They sold this party out and what we are seeing is only the beginning of decades of bad policy. I applaud the few Dems who stepped up to stop this, but honestly the majority are complicit.

[Yes We Did]

35. What are you smoking? Would you like to blame 911 on Clinton too?

Sick.

[jillan]

36. Since the Repukes have been in power for almost a decade - how 'bout

we place the blame on them as well? Ya think?

Trickle down economics anyone?

[InNeedOfUserName]

37. uugh!...i fear the Repubs WILL be running ads saying that very shortly!!!!!!!!!!

Did you read Friday's Washington Post????

During this period<2005>, Sen. Richard Shelby led a small group of legislators favoring reform, including fellow Republican Sens. John Sununu, Chuck Hagel and Elizabeth Dole.

Meanwhile, Dodd -- who along with Democratic Sens. John Kerry, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were the top four recipients of Fannie and Freddie campaign contributions from 1988 to 2008 -- actively opposed such measures and further weakened existing regulation.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/11/AR2008091102841.html

[yardwork]

38. I think it's really Jimmy Carter's fault, for losing to Reagan in 1980.

Although, one could say it was JFK's fault for getting himself assassinated. Or maybe it's FDR's fault for dying in office. Ok, it's Andrew Johnson's fault.

[Jackpine Radical]

40. Oh, yes, them too.

And Aaron Burr. He shoulda plugged Hamilton when he had the chance.

[quakerboy]

42. a Quibble. Its really Washingtons Fault

If he would have just surrendered to the Brits, we could still have been a part of the empire, and thus in no position to even have a market to crash.

[madville]

43. It was the AWB of 1993/94 that caused or current troubles then

Because that was the main factor in the Democrats losing control of the House in 1994.

[rufus dog]

44. Do you live in a single wide?

Wear wife beater t-shirts
Drink tall boys?
Beat your wife?

then blame it on someone else?

[nomaco-10]

45. They Were STOLEN!!!!! Yes, I'll give you that the dems...

have had bad management and campaign advisors when it comes to making this election beyond stealing.

BUT LOOK, What we're up against is a powerful entity geared towards the Christian Fundamentalists to change a Right Wing Supreme Court that is itching to be even more instrumental in the decisions that this country makes in the future, and their number 1 priority is to make this into a THEOCRACY.

WE'RE SCREWN... BUT ONLY if the people here that live in a purple state don't start logging out of this website and start getting into the trenches and help to get BO elected NOW. I wish I lived in one of these states and could be of any help.

[mokawanis]

46. Losing elections doesn't put primary blame

on the Dems. Secondary blame, sure, but the larger portion of blame falls on the repugs and the people who voted them in.