Quite a few of you seem to think Barack Obama is a fucking idiot

[cali]

traipsing merrily and obliviously into a trap laid by the diabolically brilliant John McCain.

Get. A. Grip.

Obama is a very bright, reflective man. He's a terrific politician. It's extremely doubtful that you know what to do and he doesn't.

[dionysus]

1. i know, the "it's a trap" people are hillarious...

[azmouse]

4. And they really have to twist themselves into a pretzel to justify

exactly how it's a trap. oy vey....

[Sodan]

16. I am concerned - game over, man, game over !

[billyoc]

2. No, cali, they just think that they're much smarter.

:rofl:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

23. Ain't that the truth.

Bunch of armchair politicians that have no friggin clue what the inside of a committee room even looks like. Watching Meet the Press every Sunday doesn't mean you're qualified to give political advice, okay?

[Drunken Irishman]

3. Mine was a joke.

:(

[cali]

5. Didn't click yours on. this wasn't directed at you.

[Drunken Irishman]

9. Ok!

Some of the replies seem to indicate people thought I was serious, when if you read the post, it seems pretty clear I was just making fun of all the "TRAP!" posts.

[Quantess]

42. Next time, be really extremely over the top, or let us know it's sarcastic.

When I saw yours, it wasn't clear to me that it was satire.
:hi:

[azmouse]

12. I think it needed the 'sarcasm' icon..... sorry.

Maybe it just wasn't over-the-top enough?

[Jackpine Radical]

22. Goddamit, do you know just how hard it has become

for us smartasses to be "over-the-top enough?" Like it's impossible to do satire anymore--or, as Lilly Tomlin said, "No matter how cynical you are, you can't keep up."

[azmouse]

26. yup, yup...

I think too many of us have gotten too serious during this tough presidential race, and I'll have to include myself in that group.

I'll try to think sillier. :silly:

[ieoeja]

47. Several times I thought I was laughing along with an author.

Only to read downthread that the poster was serious. As Jon Stewart used to say after playing a GW clip and just shrugging his shoulders, "political satire is dead. I mean, how make you that any funnier than it already is?"

[quakerboy]

53. As I watched letterman

for the first time in years, last night, I realized that a joke is not funny if you have to explain it. Just sayin.

[gateley]

6. Biden just laid out (he's speaking in PA) --

and he's telling what Obama is going to tell the WH today, and what McCain's plan is lacking (essentially, lacking concern for the middle class.)

[dennis4868]

7. I have no doubts that it is a trap....

but I also know that Obama knows this and is ready for them!

[Cha]

17. Exactly..they wouldn't be the craven

assholes they are without laying their stupid "traps" especially when they're this desperate.

And, they would just love to bring Obama and the people behind him down but they're not smart enough.

NOT THIS TIME.

[mzmolly]

30. I think you may be

right? But, I'm sure that Obama and his camp are considering all options/possibilities. That doesn't mean we can't discuss what the "asses of evil" are up to. ;)

[K Gardner]

8. I don't underestimate him at all. I do feel he's being used and, at least in part, there was

not much he COULD do about this "joint photo-op" with Bush/McCain that he's been roped into.

I hate John McCain. With a passion.

[krkaufman]

52. Precisely. Obama couldn't refuse coming to the WH photo-op ...

... but I'm confident that he'll get back on message quickly thereafter.

[Whisp]

10. lol, cali

I love how you don't mince words.

cept if they are barbed in my direction, i.e.

:rofl:

I'd rec, but the new system doesn't work for me.

[DevonRex]

11. Right. And he'll look presidential and make the right decisions

at the right time, no matter what crap the repukes pull.

[sharp_stick]

13. McCain and the Republicans get far too much credit

for being diabolically brilliant IMO. The shit you describe is downright embarrassing, it would be laughable if it came from newbies and obvious trolls but I'm disgusted by the number of long time posters now showing themselves to be pretty damned simple.

I'm convinced that Obama's campaign has a little bit of an idea about what's going on and I'm sure glad they aren't populated by the doom and gloom whiners we have around here today.

[timber84]

14. All mine were jokes.

But I think they were pretty transparent, sarcastic, but transparent.

[godai]

15. No, but you seem to be missing the politics involved. Check this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4088576

[cali]

27. so what? I mean big fucking deal. McCain was going to bring Holz-Eakins

to the WH and now he isn't. Get a grip.

[godai]

34. So, just show up on Nov 4 to vote? It'll be a breeze? Right? n/t

[cali]

41. actually, I'm going back to NH on Sunday

and I'll be driving people to the polls on Nov 4. And if you think boneheaded whining from internet posters helps Obama, you're even more clueless than you appear.

[godai]

43. Well, one of us needs to get a grip and it's not me.

You seem to enjoy name calling and putting down people who happen to disagree with you. Not sure that that translates well in trying to convince people to vote for Obama.

[ronnykmarshall]

18. It's a TRAP!

[Sodan]

19. this thread is a trap?

[Jackpine Radical]

32. Yes, and you've fallen in.

You're doomed, dooooooooooooooooooomed now.

[alcibiades_mystery]

20. Internet Forum Poster = 10 times Politically Smarter than Presidential candidate

Where you been?

We are infested with Geniuses here...

[mzmolly]

38. Many here urged Kerry to respond to the Swift Boat BS, immediately and forcefully.

Many here urged that Dems not fall for the war vote trickery.

We're not always nuts. ;)

[Dr Fate]

44. dupe

n/t

[Dr Fate]

45. That rabble? What do they know? If DEMS had listened to them, they would have opposed the war too.

If they had opposed the war, we would have lost in 2002 and in 2004 and we wouldnt have such an airtight majority in congress now- errr wait....

Next thing you know we will want to make comments or (GASP!) have INPUT into how the party we send money to handles itself.

[mzmolly]

49. Heh!

It's frustrating indeed!

[samuraiguppy]

21. McCain is going to have his ass

handed to him.

[DemzRock]

24. Well, although Barack seems very bright and has handled things

brilliantly so far, we have seen Gore and Kerry, also seemingly bright men, fall for Republicon tricks. Hell, I'm thinking that Jimmy Carter was pretty smart, but he didn't have a come-back for "well, there you go again." If he had shot back quickly with "yes, here, I go again because it's important and bears repeating..." then the world might have been a better place.

[mzmolly]

25. I don't think he's an idiot, I think he's a good person who expects

the same of others. He's also quite insulated while running for office.

I have to say many of us here knew what other brilliant Dems didn't appear to before the war and then some.

Gore wasn't an idiot, neither was Kerry, neither became President.

[cali]

29. First of all Obama is a far cannier pol than either Kerry or Gore

Secondly, Obama is tough as nails and not above sticking the knife in quickly and deftly.

[mzmolly]

35. I'm not sure anyone thinks that Obama will fall for any tricks/traps?

And I do feel it's ok to point out the possibilities that some may be plotting a win vs. trying to save the economy?

My simple suggestion is no McCain no Obama on this deal.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

28. I agree. It's not Obama that is the problem. It's the cowardly Democrats

They just caved on the offshore drilling ban JUST YESTERDAY!! The Dems have a history of giving Bush and the Repukes everything they want. They don't have enough votes in the Senate to stave off a trap set by Bush and McCoward. I just don't want them to cave in this time.

I fully trust Obama. I don't trust the Dems, particularly the DLC and Blue Dogs.

[Phx_Dem]

31. Right. And all of the previous "traps" have worked so well.

If it wasn't for those pesky but brilliant "traps," McCain would be losing! Wait . . . :wtf:

[redqueen]

33. Hahahaha... no kidding...

Still with this stuff?

Who'da thunk it...

[AtomicKitten]

36. I have every confidence Obama can handle them with one hand tied behind his back.

[dbmk]

37. What maybe should be frightening us...

Its getting more and more like playing poker against a complete moron. You can do everything right, but he just might, just might, get the lucky cards.

:)

[Dr Fate]

39. I think a lot of people are projecting the past 8 years of DEM caving & failures onto Obama.

I dont think he is an idiot- and so far, so good- although I think he should be further ahead in the polls.

I basically agree with you-DEM politicans-including Obama, are pretty smart- but I will reject any notion that Duers who have seen 8 years of failure after failure after failure after failure should just shut up and assume that DEMS will always do the right thing when it comes to strategy.

I think questioning certain moves and suggesting alternatives are fine (its not like anyone at the top ever listens anyway)-so long as those doing so are still fully supporting the ticket...

[mzmolly]

40. I agree.

:hi:

[apnu]

46. I'm cool, he's going to be fine. (nt)

[seabeyond]

48. i am thinkin. before leaving to pick up kids, was trust obama can handle

we are supporters after all. we must think highly of him. he is smart. he has proven himself. i found it all odd too. i think obama can handle situation.

[Meshuga]

50. I agree

He has been tested and tested since his campaign began and he has been a real tough cookie. The political games played by McCain only make McCain look stupid.

Obama has been cool, smooth, and making the right moves.

[krkaufman]

51. "the diabolically brilliant John McCain"... I can't stop laughing. Thank you. n/t