sampsonblk
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Mon Sep-29-08 09:06 AM
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I hope this bailout doesn't pass today |
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House Republicans are the main holdup. That's great news for them and bad news for us. Because the public is not behind this bill.
Events are changing quickly. But it still remains true that this gives the GOP a ray of hope that they don't deserve.
Dems have not successfully framed this as Bush's bailout. With each passing day, this is being portrayed more and more often as something that Pelosi and Reid want, and that the GOP is opposed to.
That is NOT god for our chances on election day.
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Mon Sep-29-08 09:09 AM
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1. I don't see it that way |
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I see it that if it doesn't pass and the market drops 2,000 points in the next two weeks the "Do-Nothing Dem Congress" will get full blame for the next depression.
I am not saying I am in favor of the bail-out...but this is a bad place no matter what. I saw a poll this morning that showed something like 33% suppoort a bail-out, 32% do not and 35% have no opinion.
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Mon Sep-29-08 09:34 AM
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9. And that number has changed over the last few days.... |
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as people start to think this through a bit....none of us like it, and whether or not it's trumped up, or not, doesn't matter. It will still crash this country if they don't do it. And yes, either way the democrats would get the blame for it. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
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Mon Sep-29-08 11:28 AM
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11. Do you know where that poll was? |
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Mon Sep-29-08 09:09 AM
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I wanna see all of the hedge funds fucked Wednesday morning.
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Mon Sep-29-08 09:10 AM
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3. If the bill does not pass |
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And it is because of the House Republicans, don't you think the public will give them credit for stopping it? If the public is against this bill, there would be no stronger position for the House Republicans than them stopping the bill. If they vote against it but it still passes, the public will be much less likely to give them support compared to if they were able to kill the bill entirely.
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Mon Sep-29-08 01:04 PM
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15. We shall see, I suppose.-nt |
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Mon Sep-29-08 09:11 AM
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for similar and different reasons.
First, I just don't support the bailout of greedy fat cats who took huge risks knowingly and are walking away and keeping their country club memberships...It's a bad idea. I want that money so that when Obama takes office, he can push through universal health care and fix social security and medicare, tbh. Accepting this bailout will make universal health care a non-topic.
Second....there is so much resistance to this bill. I spent an evening this weekend with a pretty large group of people (dems and republicans) and it was one of the main topics of conversation. I couldn't find a dem or republican truly backing the plan. I think this would make things very difficult for Obama.
I guess there are no easy answers to this though.
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Mon Sep-29-08 09:11 AM
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5. If house republicans won't vote for it |
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The Dems should not bring it to a vote. They should not pass anything in a partisan fashion this clse to the election.
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Mon Sep-29-08 09:12 AM
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6. get real. at least half the house repuke caucus will vote for the bailout |
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do try and pay attention to what's been going on. hell, adam putnam just voice support for it on the house floor. dems would not be holding a vote if they didn't have sufficient repug cover. period.
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Mon Sep-29-08 09:25 AM
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7. Oh, I forgot they are all-wise... |
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I do hope your analyisis is better than your attitude.
In any event, if this thing passes today, its going to belong to the Democratic Party.
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Mon Sep-29-08 09:31 AM
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8. Yeah, if we can't trust Nancy Pelosi to make the right decision, |
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who can we trust? She's done such a great job so far.
:sarcasm:
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Mon Sep-29-08 12:54 PM
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Did you have something you wanted to say to me?
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Mon Sep-29-08 09:34 AM
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10. I don't understand why anyone would support or oppose a bill based on anything other than its merits |
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Mon Sep-29-08 11:30 AM
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12. I'll go with Warren Buffet |
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Billionaire Warren Buffett told congressional negotiators that if they can't agree on a proposed financial bailout, the nation will face "its biggest financial meltdown in American history," http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/28/bailout.deal/index.html?eref=rss_world
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Mon Sep-29-08 11:30 AM
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13. The same 'public' that ate up all those sub-prime loans? |
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Forgive me for not caring what they think. Economic geniuses that they are. :eyes:
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