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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:44 PM
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BILL FAILS TO PASS!
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 12:47 PM by Median Democrat
189 Yes
208 No

Democrats vote on the Bill 134-94
Republicans vote on the Bill 63-129
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bevoette Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:45 PM
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1. how far will the market fall before closing??
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:46 PM
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3. 1,000 points
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:49 PM
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16. DOW Down 500 Points Already!
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:50 PM
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17. DOW Down 500 Points Already!
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:50 PM
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18. DOW Down 500 Points Already!
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:46 PM
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6. GOP Fails To Muster The 70 Votes They Promised - Thanks McCain!
Whoa, great leadership their McCain!
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:49 PM
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15. Yes!
Remember there WAS almost a bipartisan agreement before McCain's little stunt last week!
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:46 PM
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2. HOLY FUCK!!!!
:(
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:46 PM
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4. market dropps 250 points MORE because of the vote!
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medicswife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:46 PM
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5. Oooohhhhhh, I thought that was going to happen!!!!!!!! nt
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:46 PM
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7. Free Fall!!! Holy shit!! Paulson will have a heart attack; BUSH IMPLODING!
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:46 PM
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8. The stock market is crashing
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:47 PM
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9. dupe
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 12:49 PM by ClarkUSA
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:47 PM
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10. Interesting. Nobody trusts Bush... and I can't blame them
He's betrayed our trust so many times...
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:47 PM
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11. It's not done yet... they can open the vote as long as they want.
And they will, until they get the votes they want... think Medicare "reform" bill.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:48 PM
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12. who didnt vote?????????????????
Thats not 435!!!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:48 PM
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13. not over yet
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:53 PM
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24. Vote Is Over Now: 202-218 - Fails to Pass
1:45 pm : The House of Represenatives falied to pass the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act., getting 202 votes compared to the 218 needed. There are eight votes left to be counted.

The S&P 500 tumbles, down more 7%DJ30 -680.49 NASDAQ -146.48 SP500 -87.02
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:49 PM
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14. What is the breakdown?
If the republicans are reponsible for stopping this bill, and the market drops....whooooppppppeeeeeee!!!!

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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:50 PM
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19. That's fucked up. The house is being immature
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:51 PM
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21. Gee, What Happened To McCain Calling GOP Members? Thanks For The Stunt!
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:51 PM
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20. So - lets talk about McCain's leadership now shall we? nm.
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:52 PM
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22. did McCain vote for it?
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 12:53 PM by frickaline
holy **** I cant believe this
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:56 PM
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30. No, McCain Is In The Senate - Bill Dies In House
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:07 PM
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43. lol sry wasn't thinking - bit distracted atm
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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:56 PM
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33. McCain's a Senator...
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:52 PM
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23. I'm so fucking sick right now. Can't stop crying. I'm scared to death.
:cry:
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:54 PM
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27. We'll be OK.
The fundamentals of our economy are strong.

:sarcasm:
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:56 PM
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31. lmao ty for that
I needed that laugh
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:53 PM
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25. What is going on here? What tricks to the Repukes have up their sleeve?
I'm still not sure I agree with the bailout as constructed, but what do the Repukes, and McSame, have to gain from this?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:59 PM
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36. the GOP House members are running for their reelection
Their constitutencies are staunchly opposed to the bill. They want to get reelected in 5 weeks.

Democrats who saw that 2/3 the GOP were against the bill and who knew from their own constituents that such constituents were vehemently opposed to the bill. They took a pass.

This bill is DOA, and now we will get to see what the markets do if the sign is that NO bailout is coming as anticipated. I think it helps us, as a party, for this vote to fail. This puts the whole thing on the GOP now. If the economy goes SOUTH suddenly, they will get the blame. The economy is not going to get well, so we don't have to worry about that happening.

I think we are in the position to sit back and let voters blame the GOP when their economic woes increase the next few weeks.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:02 PM
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38. Makes sense
Repukes out for themselves now and who cares about others.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:54 PM
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26. stepping inside my paranoia....
is this possibly a Repb calculated trick to make Obama and the Dems look bad?
"See, we repubs are looking out for you voters, we don't approve this horrendous bill that will cost YOU money. But that Obama, he was 100% for it! "

Just thinking.....:tinfoilhat:
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:55 PM
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29. by making themselves look incompetent?
I don't think even Rove could spin his way out of this stinking pile.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:57 PM
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34. That's exactly what I think just happened.-nt
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soccermomforobama Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:58 PM
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35. I am not sure any trick that the Repb could do that would not backfire on them
Boehner and Bachus gave two emotional speeches in favor of the bill. McCain looks like a complete fool for his stunt last week (and he deserves it)
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FloridaGrl Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:01 PM
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37. Of course they are going to try
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:05 PM
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40. No.
The Repubs WANTED it to pass, but they wanted the Democrats to pass it. That way they could have their cake and eat it to.

The Democrats did not want to vote for this bill, largely because it is intended to try and correct a Republican-created problem, but many of them did for the good of the country even though they knew it could cost them politically.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:54 PM
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28. stepping inside my paranoia....
is this possibly a Repb calculated trick to make Obama and the Dems look bad?
"See, we repubs are looking out for you voters, we don't approve this horrendous bill that will cost YOU money. But that Obama, he was 100% for it! "

Just thinking.....:tinfoilhat:
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:56 PM
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32. I'm confused
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 12:57 PM by mvd
It looks like they want to tie lame duck Bush and Congress together. But McCain didn't exactly oppose the bill. So I'm not sure what the Repukes are doing - but I know you can't trust them.
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:06 PM
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41. Newt Gingrich Was Advocating Dumping The Bill On The Democrats
However, both McCain and Obama have a vested interest in not presiding over the beginning of a new Depression, and McCain wanted to be seen as helping bring the bailout together according the Washington Post and Politico.

McCain screwed things up by delaying the bill, and pretending to support the House GOP when he was also supporting the bailout. In the White House meeting, Obama asked McCain point blank if he supported the bailout or the House GOP's mortgage insurance proposal, and McCain did not say anything. McCain's indecision help give the House GOP courage to blow up the deal.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:03 PM
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39. Citigroup took over Wachovia - Dow down 450 - vote stuck at 207/226 yea/nay - nasdaq down 125
Pukes are being blamed for all of this.
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:07 PM
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42. As well they should be!
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:13 PM
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44. Damn
My job is in the construction sector. Almost all the developers I have spoken with this past have put their projects on hold waiting to see what happens with this. The banks are NOT giving even good accounts any money.

I am pretty sure my job is hinging on this today. Whoo. boy. Trying to breathe.
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