94 Dems have voted Nay ... WTF is wrong with them

[TheCoxwain]

[FrenchieCat]

1. Principle! You know, like here on DU!

Ask Dennis Kucinich. He'll tell you why he voted Nay.

[crossroads]

18. His view in 1 minute

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Feyu2Db2QuU

[Meshuga]

42. I agree with him 100% n/t

[Meshuga]

43. DUPE

oops...

[Renew Deal]

2. Nothing

That's probably what their constituents want.

[MadBadger]

8. Rasmussen had a poll out today that showed post debate opposition to the bailout fell greatly

[Cronus Protagonist]

3. They're doing the people's work n/t

I'm surprised, really, because so many politicians work for the corporations.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

13. Who's work? People that already have no jobs, no house, and no 401(k)?

Moron.

[adigal]

4. They don't believe in Welfare for Wall Street???? I am with them.

Good. We need to start over. The newspeople are shocked.

[busymom]

39. I'm with them too!

[vanboggie]

5. I'm no economist

But anything the Chimp wants this badly cannot be good. Therefore Nay doesn't sound so bad to me.

[LisaM]

15. Exactly. The radio news was just saying Bush and Cheney had lobbied hard

for this bill to pass. Which tells me to just hold off a little. There WILL be a bailout of some time. There is no reason to rush through another bad piece of Bush legislation.

[elehhhhna]

20. Pelosi seemed to like it, too, and I don't trust her anymore.

Bad news bill if Bushie wants it.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

16. That is beyond idiocy. (nt)

[vanboggie]

21. The sky is falling

Shouldn't you be running instead of slamming me?

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

36. No, because you're the fucking reason that the sky is falling.

You and every other fucking moron that doesn't understand the ramifications of this.

[vanboggie]

40. That's a matter of opinion, Chicken Little

I don't trust *, I do trust a few Dems yet and those are the ones on the Nay side. Jeezus, chill.

[stopbush]

6. Nothing is wrong with them.

They are trying to force the Rs to come on board with this bill so they won't get all the blame for it.

The Ds could pass this with just D votes, but they're SMARTER than that. The Rs will need to cave if the bill is to pass. Ds MUST hold the line here.

[bluestateguy]

7. They have tough races in November

This bill is not popular. Their opponents back home are just waiting with the attack ads, ready to go if they vote for it.

You don't schedule a vote on a bill like this a month before a fucking election.

[ingac70]

9. Why should dems be stuck?

Repubs put us in this situation and don't want to participate in getting out. Plus, I really don't trust a word out of Paulson and Bush's mouth. This was too much like the urgency of the Iraq war vote.

[marshall]

28. That's what comes with being the party in power

You not only have the power, you also have the responsibility and you have to be ready to take the heat.

[ingac70]

37. It can wait until after the election. n/t

[Ganja Ninja]

10. They're waiting for the country first crowd to step up and save the day.

Which is only right in my opinion.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

11. They are clowns and should all be removed from office (along with all the pugs)

[Xipe Totec]

12. They want the pugs to belly up to the bar

and take responsibility for the mess.

Pugs want the bill to pass, but still want to blame the Democrats for the cost.

[Ganja Ninja]

23. Yup! I knew this would happen.

If Americans think they can depend on the GOP to do anything more than posture for the next election they are badly mistaken.

[Blasphemer]

25. Yeah... no one in a difficult re-election campaign wants anywhere near a Yes vote.... nt

[Johonny]

14. The deal was it had to be nearly 100 % or they weren't passing

it. The time is not for partisan politics. You can't pass a Wall Street bailout on strictly partisan lines.

[MercutioATC]

17. They're smart?

This bill was going to stink regardless of how much perfume Dems put on it.

Now, we can actually address the problem instead of just throwing money at it.

[jdlh8894]

32. Thank you for making sense! n/t

[Sodan]

19. I trust Kucinich

[ProSense]

33. What's his plan to avert the crisis?

Here is what he proposes (scroll down).

The number of people claiming that those who have expressed doubts about the plans on the table are saying that there is no crisis is beyond unbelievable.

There is a crisis, and Congress better come up with a plan.

[Democat]

22. Democrats should not have supported any bill unless Republicans did

Period.

Bush messed up the economy. Why would Democrats try to save him one month before an election while allowing Republicans to look like they are the ones standing up to Bush?

We need to win this election. Four or eight years of McCain will be far worse than one stock market crash.

Pelosi is a failure to let this happen.

[iceman66]

38. Agree 100%!

[BlackmanX]

24. Pelosi needs to get on her job

You can't tell me she can't pull 11 of those dems who voted nay to vot yes. This is like watching congress take part in the 1929 stock market crash and enabling it

[TheCoxwain]

26. The Insurance plan proposed by House Republicans is a non starter ...

It will not solve the liquidity crisis ...


The insurance plan is a stunt


DEMS need to pass this ..the should grow a pair and do the right thing

[bookman]

27. It has always been clear..

..that this bill HAD to be bipartison.

[Median Democrat]

29. What About The Majority Of Republicans Who Voted Nay? McCain Said He ...

Was convincing them...Indeed, wasn't McCain taking credit for bringing them in support of the Bill?

[Daemonaquila]

30. Nothing at all - they're right

There is no reason to think that the bailout will work, other than vague promises and threats from the Bushies. During the Great Depression, they solved our economic problems by saving people's homes, getting them into work, etc. This is a pure corporate welfare effort, with nothing for Americans who are being hit hard by the crisis. The bill would, at best, continue the crisis for many more months or years as the worthless securities are propped up so they can continue to poison the market, and toxic execs keep their jobs and ginormous paychecks and continue on to do more of the same.

The way to stabilize the market is to stabilize homeowners' mortgages directly.

Cheers to the folks voting against the bill!

[iceman66]

31. Because

Many Democrats do not feel that they should be the ones to have to put their careers on the line to try and fix a problem that the other party is almost 100% responsible for.

In a way I kind of agree with them, even though it seems that this bailout should have passed for the good of the country.

Bottom line is that more Republicans should have voted for this bill because they are the ones who created this mess in the first place, and now we really need to hold their feet to the fire!

[iceman66]

34. duplicate post

[iceman66]

35. The important thing to remember

is that any responsibility for this now needs to be laid squarely at the feet of the Republicans!

They not only created the problem, but rejected the solution based on purely political considerations!

[geek tragedy]

41. Extremists and purists. n/t

[secondwind]

44. it's politics........constituents back home, etc. , probably a re-election year for them

-- nothing out of the ordinary.

This too shall pass.

[alcibiades_mystery]

45. I agree that if the Republicans weren't going to vote for it, then it should fail

And, as most people know, I was a supporter of the bailout. At the same time, the GOP has to grow up. They can't have it both ways, and they will be reduced to being the party of the kooky religious wackos now. They just lost their business base.

But yes. If they backed out, then it should fail. They don't get to eat their conservative wacko cake and blame the Dems too. They made the shit sandwich. Now they're gonna have to eat it.

[iamthebandfanman]

46. they have some respect for their beliefs

nobody thinks we should be bailing out failed businesses with our tax money... but if it saves us from something worse, it mite be worth it... so long as we put a system into place where this can NEVER happen again....


we need to start taking over profitable businesses, not failed ones.
lower costs and more jobs all around... but oh no...


i hate this warped fascism these people follow these days... taking only the worst of socialism when it suites them , any other time railing about how anti-american it is to do those things... so hypocritical

[ContinentalOp]

47. They just saved us the election! Why do so many not see that? -nt-